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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:20 AM Original message |
Is President Obama setting Rs up for a historic KNOCKOUT in 2012, using 'ROPE-A-DOPE' strategies |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. Nah. NT |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. times google |
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yourout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. The only one getting Knocked out is Obama himself. This bill has more landmines in it than South.... |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. What "landmines"? Can you be specific? All I see is UPSIDE far outweighing |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Here are a couple threads: |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Thanks for your quick response. I haven't spent much time on DU during the past |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Hopefully none of it will bite us in the end |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I see--the first link is about an R plan to complete the looting of public employee |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
47. there is nothing good in this. Pass it and I'm screwed. Don't pass |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 01:23 AM Response to Reply #47 |
80. Neither corporate execs nor governors nor any other officials can be trusted to |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
3. We shall see...... |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. He is not that smart. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. And you know this how? |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. A smart man would have told the Republicans where to get off... |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
5. k&r |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Well that makes by my count at least two positive RECS wiped away by the |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
42. It's at least 6 now. Went from 2 to zero, up to 4, down to 2, and now it's zero again. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
7. They'll have all three branches and then they'll be SCREWN! |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Did you even read my post to the end, let alone click through to the excellent URLs |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I did..... |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Thank you, FC. But I still want to hear from JVS, who I don't think shares your |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I also just posted it to my facebook...... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Fuck no! It was way too fucking long! |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Thanks for your honesty. Unfortunately, DU apparently has become a VIDEO GAME |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Plus folks are allowed to say stuff without back up at all! |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. 'I see my days at DU numbered, due to the lack of intellectual curiosity' I'm right there |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #31 |
53. Don't Sweat It---You'll Still Have Lots Of Friends. |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
78. Don't forget Bill Clinton, Sen John Kerry(D-MA), Sen. John Rockefeller(D-WV), etc, etc. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
17. Well, I certainly hope so. nt |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
19. If the tax cuts go through, and the economy improves |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
21. that is what i am hoping. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
23. Deleted message |
Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
25. This is the same Rope-A-Dope bullshit we saw during the health insurance debate |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Did Health Reform pass or not? IMO Obama's accomplishements are HISTORIC, and |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. No Health Reform didn't pass, Health Insurance "Reform" passed |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I agree with Obama during his press conference this week. "This is the Public Option |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:06 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. You feel like this is winning? Looking weak against the obstruction of the NOpublicans? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Tea party was a concoction of the Republican moneyed interest groups |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. And the white house went dark during their birth |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I remember DUers laughing about them..... |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Winning is not getting NOTHING. And where was all the Democratic populism BEFORE |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:26 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. We lost because we wouldn't support the thing you said we WON on |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:10 AM Response to Reply #30 |
48. That's exactly what we're afraid of - this is the Public Option all over again. |
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monkeydog (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
59. why didn't we make them filibuster on anything? |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
26. And how do the people benefit if they get screwed by the Democrats rather than by Republicans? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. the plan is the assumption that the "plan" will actually improve the economy. It won't? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. *Middle class meaning around 200k* |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:48 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Impressive graphics, but... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Well screw it than...... |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. In order to solve a problem, one first has to understand the problem. |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:26 AM Response to Reply #26 |
50. 'None of the proposals you mentioned will stimulate the economy' Even John McCain's |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
71. Most economists are the "priests" of capitalism. |
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LeftyAndProud60 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
43. Oh no, not the "Chess" shit again. NT |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:05 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. LMAO chess is going to run their azz right off the cliff! |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
61. You realize that isnt funny or interesting anymore, right? After about 500 times... |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:23 AM Response to Original message |
49. OMG. This is bordering on delusion at this point |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
51. Wow |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
52. Deleted message |
Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
54. Rec. . . |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Don't count on "won't be able to talk about" for Republicans |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
55. Just like Chuck Wepner. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
56. Of course, some people brought up "chess" as they will anytime you assert Obama is using strategy |
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monkeydog (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
57. rope-a-dope: you're doing it wrong |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
58. K&R up to 0. I agree with this-with the timing of the tax cut expiration, etc. Your OP would've |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
60. fiction. nt |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
62. I wish, but I don't think so. |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
63. Of course. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
64. The OP is wrong on several points. |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. TY. Yr 1st point about 'tiers' of UI benefits well may be correct. But the other two are |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:17 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. GRAPHIC LINK: Yr 3d point about expected demographics of voters in 2010 DEFINITELY is wrong |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #64 |
79. No rejoinder? |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
66. oh please... |
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Moondog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
67. Oh, please. At best, this is magical thinking. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
68. No, start believing what you're seeing and hearing. The sooner, the better. nt |
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Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
69. Wily Obama failed to avert near record losses in the last elections |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
70. Dream on |
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wackywaggin (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
73. You don't rise to the top |
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budkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
75. No, he'll praise the GOP candidate and say he's looking forward to working with him |
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rachael7 (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
76. Delightful Idea, but... |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:36 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. 'Isn't giving the country anything they wanted'? Historic health and financial reform; |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
81. Getting severely beaten about the head and shoulders is a GREAT stragety! Look where it got Ali... |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
82. It'd be nice but |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 03:21 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Nics stats. Do U have a link? Have you read Ruy Teixera or Dylan Loewe (see |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Here is my info |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
85. I'm not sure yet, but Randi Rhodes and some of the pundits think so. |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. I believe Ben Bernanke's 60 Minutes interview gave Obama unexpected help in |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 04:29 AM Response to Reply #85 |
92. Today's Obama "victory lap" was intructive. The Presiden tlisted his accomplishments |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
86. WTF.....chess shit again? |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
87. .. |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
89. I hope so! |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
90. it's not rope-a-dope it's 3D chess! |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
91. Oh for Christ sakes. |
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