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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:00 AM Original message |
What they got versus what we got. The tax disaster illustrated (finally). |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. There needs to be attributed as to whom put this chart together ...and sources. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Nobody really asked for a payroll tax holiday. It is just being shoved down our throats. (nt) |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Oh yeah, all the people making less than $100K/year will really hate |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Damn, that's a good idea. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I Can See Both Sides Of The Argument |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. When has Obama, or almost every other democrat proposed lifting the lid on income for SS? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Obama has proposed this frequently, at least since 2007. |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. President Obama has advocated raising the income limit on SS for a long while |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. It SHOULD have been part of this compromise |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. How do you know this isn't part of Obama's chess game? nt |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. LMAO. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Way to go! Raise the income limit!!! nt |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. Did it occur to you that the reason the Rethugs are so happy |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Did it occur to you that Rethugs are often wrong? n/t |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. It says right there. DUer tomm2thumbs put it together. And the source is... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
42. I approve of the "holiday." It's a good first step |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Well said nt |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. I will post the same thing about this chart as I did about the competing chart |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
6. I would also put |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
8. Seems to be short 500 billion. |
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fmlymninral (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. the congress at the time |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. The child tax credit is also the extension of Bush doubling it 10 years ago |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. This makes no sense |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. They expanded the child tax credit to include some more low income parents in the stimulus |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. This is because you have dishonest and dishonorable people |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
13. K & R |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It's the WH chart. If it manipulates the facts, take it up with them. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Ouch! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. This is not the WH chart. It's completely dishonest. n/t |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. Kick. eom |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. that makes it look even more pitiful--and the payroll tax holiday is a prelude to |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. A couple things that show this graphic is bullshit |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Interesting. The poster only changed the payroll tax "holiday." Which means the WH is responsible... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. What do you think of that, zulu, since you called bullshit on it?... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. That's not the argument. The WH put up the original chart to show what we "got" |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. I think the Payroll Tax Holiday should be put on the blue side.... |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
28. It would be even more effective if they showed the number of people |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
30. So Dems are suddenly against the Child Tax Credit? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Ask the White House. It's their chart. The only change has been to move the... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Here is the actual chart: |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. The regressive payroll tax holiday belongs on the other side. |
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discopants (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
37. $280B Middle-class tax cut doen't count for 'what we got"? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Shh! Don't disturb the narrative! |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. No, because BOTH SIDES wanted them. |
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