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bos1 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 08:41 PM
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Let's Kill the Hostages & Commit Suicide!
That's the plan concocted by the people who want to subvert Obama's compromise and now talk about a 2012 Democratic challenge to Obama.

Without the compromise, unemployment benefits will be cut for millions. Those are the hostages Obama is saving.

With a Democratic challenge to Obama in 2012, say hello to President Romney and VP Palin. That would be suicide for the Democratic Party.

Moral of the story: Don't kill the hostages, and don't commit suicide.


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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 08:52 PM
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1. Of course
Let's give them reason to take more hostages and let's commit suicide by driving up the deficit and attacking Social Security.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 08:54 PM
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2. Romney won't be the 2012 nominee
He's pro-gun-control, and you know the Tea Party isn't going to sit still for that.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:49 PM
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8. Republicans in general won't sit still for this.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 10:12 PM
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11. Don't write Romney off.
His pro-gun control stance means nothing. Republicans have proven they WILL accept a pro-gun control candidate if he's electable otherwise, as some of the 2010 races proved as some pro-gun Democrats were replaced by Republicans with worse records.

Romney's still the strongest challenger to Obama right now, his only real fear is evangelicals boycotting him because he's a Mormon. Of course they won't vote for him in the primaries, but if he becomes the nominee, I have no doubt Republicans will close ranks behind him.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 11:00 PM
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12. Romney cannot become the nominee
without the fundies, they make up way too much of the Rethug base. If he could, he would have won in both Iowa and New Hampshire in 2008, and in those places, he didn't even get close.

The fundies don't want to hand a talking point to the Mormon missionaries now trying to fleece their flocks. Romney's dead meat in the Repuke party, though he'd stand a chance of being elected in the general if he mounted a third party candidacy.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:50 AM
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16. If Bush Pere Can Flip On Choice Mittens Can Flip On Guns
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:30 PM
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3. And Palin couldn't get elected dog catcher.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:32 PM
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4. Because of this it will be open season on hostages.
It worked this time, what makes you think it won't happen again and again and again?
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DaveofCali Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:33 PM
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5. So we are supposed to compromise with the terrorists?
Only encourages more terrorism.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:43 PM
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6. Vote Obama or Kill Yourself?
Now there's campaign slogan.
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DaveofCali Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:45 PM
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7. Seriously, why can't the Democrats make a lot of hay, grab a lot of media attention...
And basically force the Republicans to concede by calling out their cruelty against Americans!? I mean, it's the same thing that Republicans would have done "If you don't support the tax cut you would be raising taxes on struggling Americans!"
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:50 AM
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15. Media won't allow it.
1) On Sunday night, Boehner does an interview and claims he's against compromise. He also says that Obama needs to respect the will of the people who voted in 2010. Not one follow up question is asked as to why he and the GOP obstructed Obama and the Dems after the 2006 and 2008 elections. Nothing.

2) On Monday afternoon, Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC shows the Boehner clip and uses it to demonstrate the neither the GOP nor the President have been willing to compromise on anything. She then spends the next 10 minutes letting a GOP representative describe how for 2 years, Obama was pushing far left legislation, and was unwilling to compromise with the GOP. Mitchell does not ask a single meaningful follow-up.

3) Also Monday afternoon, Chris Jansing comes on and points out that if the tax cuts expire, Obama will have effectively broken his promise to not raise taxes on those making under $250,000 ... which is about 95% of the country.

The GOP will not be blamed. The media will make sure that the public knows that "the democrats, who love to raise your taxes, and who hold the majority, just raised taxes again."

That narrative has already started on MSNBC, the so-called liberal media.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:50 PM
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9. Instead of killing the hostage takers, he's invited them to take even more
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 10:00 PM by rocktivity
The unemployed will be hostages again a year from now, along with Social Security recipients because they'll be less revenue for benefits. And we'll end up with the exact same result.

:(
rocktivity
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 10:05 PM
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10. No. Let's torture them for two years before we kill them.
Then we can give the torturers a big old bonus of $700 billion.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 11:06 PM
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13. There's also the possibility
that the Repigs will not want to totally abandon the unemployed once they have effective control of the Congress in January. No, they won't go for thirteen months, but they might go for six or seven months at a time, paid for by cuts in other spending.

Gutting Social Security and giving some freebies to the heirs of rich people just isn't worth it to me.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 09:33 AM
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14. We will never know what we could have gotten
Because Obama gave up the farm without a fight
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 10:39 AM
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17. Speak for yourself. The rest of us know very well what we could
have gotten. And we got more than that.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 10:49 AM
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18. Republicans would literally give anything for more tax cuts for the rich
See you in 13 months when the GOP demand BRAND NEW tax cuts for the rich.
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