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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:30 AM
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McCain Still So angry at Obama who beat him in 2008

McCain was a 'no' on START
So much for that inaugural dinner that then-President-Elect Obama threw in John McCain's honor in Jan. 2009. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28740225/ns/politics-inauguration/)
McCain today voted against ratification of the New START treaty, which means that -- outside of the war in Afghanistan and the tax-cut deal -- the Arizona senator didn't support a single major Obama White House policy in 2009 to 2010.
It's in contrast to Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, who voted for the stimulus.
It's in contrast to Lindsey Graham, who voted to confirm both of Obama's Supreme Court nominees.
It's in contrast to Scott Brown, George Voinovich, Mark Kirk, Lisa Murkowski, and John Ensign, who voted to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
And it's in contrast to Lamar Alexander, Bob Corker, Judd Gregg, Thad Cochran, Mike Johanns, Johnny Isakson, Dick Lugar, and Bob Bennett, who voted for START's ratification.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/12/22/5697487-mccain-was-a-no-on-start
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:31 AM
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1. Worse, IMHO, he was a COSPONSOR of the DREAM act, and voted against that
He has been a colossal, bitter asshole. He made a total fool of himself during the DADT hearings and I really wish Colbert wasn't on vacation so he could ream him for it.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:55 AM
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13. And that was vengeance for the Hispanic vote not coming out for him.
The funny thing is: we all knew what a rat bastard he was. None of this is surprising us, but the media is just beside themselves to see the unvarnished McCain.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:31 AM
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2. I just keep thinking back to that dinner the President gave in McCain's honor...
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 12:32 AM by Clio the Leo
.... during Inauguration week. It was a fence mending of sorts.

Oh well, he tried.




(lol and on a related note, who's this young dude in this pic next to McCain? Is that Obama's lil brother? EGADS! What are we doing to the man!)
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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:34 AM
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4. I loved that pictures
this made me so laugh hard as I remember...
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 07:37 AM
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17. I sometimes wonder whether being caught in that pose in that pic might be one
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 07:38 AM by tblue37
of the reasons why McCain can't let go of his bitterness over the election. Can you imagine how he must wince every time he sees that picture--and it will never go away!
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:33 AM
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3. McCain is a bitter nasty old man.
he spent 51 million in the arizona primary to beat hayworth. he doesn't care about his constituents. he only cares about himself. time for him to retire, but alas we're stuck with him for another 6 years. oy vey.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 03:33 AM
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15. McCain spent over $70 of his own money for every primary vote... isn't that just sick.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 05:49 PM
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27. but he was against health care for
the 9/11 responders.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:43 AM
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5. He's clearly an unstable man and should retire. nt
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:43 AM
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6. That's just McNuts and how he reacts to defeat. I read somewhere
(sorry I don't remember where) that the reason people thought he was such a maveric was because he was so pissed at bush for beating him in SC that he deliberately voted against most of the Shrub supported bills in the Senate. Yes he's a mean nasty old man, but it's not that different from what hewas like when he was a mean nasty younger man, and who knows how far back that goes.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:52 AM
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9. Link?
Kidding. :evilgrin:
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:45 AM
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7. I really now doubt that he was the hero POW that refused to talk that is the legend.
Judging by his character now? I imagine he gave up all he knew to save his own comfort level as a POW.

People generally gain character and courage as they age. Because past a certain point? They just don't G.A.S. (Give a sht)

He has zero ability to stand with an issue. Not even with his own adopted daughter. He is a slug.

He has probably always been a slug. We were just sold a glitzy lie because he was cute for a little while.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:52 AM
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10. Even as a pilot and POW, he wasn't much.
He got shot down because he disobeyed a direct order to return to base and not fly in a particular area (because it was crawling with SAMs). Before that, he crashed 4 other aircraft, also his fault.

And Crash McCain was given the nickname Songbird by the other POWs at the Hanoi Hilton.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:53 AM
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11. I thought he admitted to talking - which was why he was (at one time) against
torture. Knew that you'd say anything to stop the torture. I may be wrong, but I think that's what I heard.
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:47 AM
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8. Before his six years is up
they will be carrying him out in a straight jacket.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:54 AM
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12. As a DUer posted on another thread, this is what he'll be remembered for - not
his POW 'fame'.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 01:29 AM
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14. Bush beat him in 2000, but McCain never missed a chance to kiss his ass. (nt)
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 07:14 AM
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16. McCain is bitter because he never made Admiral as did his father and grandfather...
He had a rep as a real prick who used his father's rank to get his way in the Navy for his entire career, intimidating even senior officers to get out of trouble or to get out of some duty he didn't like.

He feels he is owed everything he ever got and more. He is a tempermental nasty shit with very poor impulse control and no sense of decency or fairness.

mark
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:40 AM
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19. Agree ... but I'd go farther ...
I think you are right about him wanting, NO ... expecting, to become an admiral. In his mind, he was entitled to it ... it was his destiny.

Until being shot down.

Afterward, I think he came to the conclusion that he had a new destiny, a much better one.

JFK had a PT boat shot out from under him. He survived. Elected to the House, then the Senate ... then, war hero President.

GHW Bush was shot down. He survived. Elected to the House, UN ambassador, CIA director, VP ... then war hero President.

McCain shot down, POW. He survived. Elected to the House, then the Senate ... obvious next step ... war hero President.

Bush II swiped the prize in 2000. And McCain was angry, but he was able to accept that outcome because after all, Bush II was also an "entitled one". So the fact that Bush was able to get the prize this time was understandable. McCain knew his time was coming.

Then, out of nowhere, an unknown black guy steals what McCain has earned. His anger boils over. The American people have denied him what is rightfully his. So fuck them.

That's where I think he is now.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:41 AM
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21. YES! He is nothing if not egotistical...nt
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 04:46 PM
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26. It was the 2000 campaign where it was revealed that McCain had the backbone of a slug
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 04:46 PM by alphafemale
He did not strike back against the Rovian attack that insinuated he had a black child out of wedlock. When actually the attacks were against his 7yr old adopted daughter from Bangladesh.

He also went milquetoast on the Confederate flag issue in SC by refusing to take a stand against what he had once said was a racist symbol.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:03 AM
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18. He's mentally unstable. He shouldn't be in Congress.
There are provisions for requiring mental fitness to perform in an official capacity in Congress, and he shouldn't be there.
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:46 AM
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20. He cannot stand that he was beaten by an African-American
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:51 AM
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22. I think it is more that
he cannot stand being beaten by a handsome, smart, extremely popular young man. I don't think McCain can handle the fact that he's getting old and this young, inexperienced fella comes along and steals what McCain believes belongs to him. Classic bitter old man.
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 11:28 AM
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23. I agree,
but also he feels entitled because his father and grandfather were admirals
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:06 PM
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24. Oh definitely
He has "entitled" written all over him. Spoiled, privileged young man grew up to be a cranky, bitter old man who still thinks he is entitled.
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 01:17 PM
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25. Don't forget McCain despised Bush for the same reasons (he beat him).
Apparently losing graciously is not a strong point with him.


















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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 06:37 PM
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28. In all fairness
The Bush slime machine gave McCain some justification for his contempt. Obama didn't pull that shit.

McCain is a prime example of a legacy guy. White priviledge and connections got him to where he is today. He doesn't get it that it isn't always enough. It may have been for Bush and look at how well that turned out. Hopefully people are learning that a person's family connections just isn't enough.
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