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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:03 PM Original message |
Why do so many in the 19% of Democrats against Obama in 2012 |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not his base. His Liberal Base. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. So you're saying only a 5th of Democrats are liberals? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. He sold himself as liberal-lite. Take a look at his list of promises and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. 85% of self identified liberals in the poll want Pres Obama to be the nominee - even higher then the |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
50. self identified liberals |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
119. What other kind of liberal is there? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 05:47 AM Response to Reply #119 |
136. This is when the left sounds like the right. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #50 |
140. So? if you we're asked if you were a liberal in a poll what would you say? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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Moral_Imagination (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
127. Nope, Democratic disapproval |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. I see it's time for DU's daily 2 Minutes Hippie Punching |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. But the question was, why are there people in this minority so sure they have |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Why do you care? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
118. +1000. nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
124. I'm asking them |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #124 |
148. Are "centrists" the majority? |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
134. A black fly bite will never kill me, but they are damn annoying |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #134 |
144. Lovely use of violent eliminationist rhetoric there |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
71. That would be because we *KNOW* who worked in the last election... |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. LOL |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Is sticking knives in a candidate considered 'support'? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 06:52 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. We're going to test your theory. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Is sticking knives in his own supporters backs considered 'leadership'? |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Actually, it is suicidal |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
112. The 'base' is the 'left' |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
100. actually it was us liberals not in the 19% |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
125. Not buying that one |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
73. Actually, I think the question is "Why the hell do people use the term 'hippie punching' in 2010?" |
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KossackRealityCheck (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #73 |
109. Excellent point! The "hippies" destroyed the left |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #109 |
122. Interesting. I have to admit to knowing practically nothing about the hippie movement |
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Aleric (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
86. Because you keep telling us we do |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Because we need 51% to win |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Then maybe some things should have been done to please the liberals? |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. The 2% demand the most extreme things |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #97 |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #93 |
126. that nothing was done that should please them is an unreasonable position |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #86 |
139. U were villified over Gore because Many of U DIDN"T Vote for him |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
95. 2% swings elections |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
123. It was that minority that volunteered IN DROVES to get the mushy middle to the polls in 2008. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
133. You folks claim to have all-encompassing power to destroy Obama |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. the 19% are probably conservative democrats and anarchists |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. So if the 19 percent can't speak for the base, why do you think you can |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I'm not speaking for them, I'm just guessing what their make up is |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
110. Define 'the far left fringe' |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. +1 Exactly |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
141. Because this is GDP. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. At least some of them, true |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. I agree. The 19% are probably Blue Dogs who believe that Obama's too liberal. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. I'm sure a proportion of that 19% are disaffected liberals, while another |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
61. Why not actually look at the poll internals to find out who the 19% are? |
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Atticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. With all due respect, I must reject your premise. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Nice dissection of poisonous, black-and-white BS. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Funny how fundamental *Democratic* rights are so despised by some here |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #34 |
101. im pretty sure that they just see it as dishonest dissent |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
111. There is a tiny fringe that basically worships Barack OBama |
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Mortos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #111 |
138. And there are an equal number here |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. No doubt some of each group do think that way |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. So do you not like Democracy? That is part of it.. Unless you want Russian style government |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Why do you have to be a Nazi? (You are not the only one who can use logical fallacies) |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 03:06 AM Response to Reply #45 |
83. Right. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. As a proud member of the "far left" who supports the president, I firmly |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
102. BINGO. you are the winner |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
9. Low-Info voters |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
85. +1 n/t |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. Could be anti war voters |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. there won't be a viable primary candidate to the left of Obama. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. But unless this Administration.... |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. True, but do you realize that people are simply expressing democracy? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #38 |
103. yes, shockingly, not all voices are accepted here |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Well a Republican is certainly not their man or woman |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. In Russia that kind of thinking would be a Putin patriot. You must be proud |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #39 |
104. actually, what he is doing is part of democracy |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. How about |
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Bluzmann57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Egomania? |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. Obviously the 78% number is padded with young people, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. If he were really getting the job done |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. you must not know what the numbers for Clinton where at this point |
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
80. Nah |
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Recovered Repug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. Do many of the 19% think they're the base, |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. The "bandwagon" flavor of broadside vs Obama's critics is one of many based on false premises. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
22. I would say that more conservative dems than liberal dems oppose Obama in that 19% |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. I don't know. They seem to feel entitled due to being "right" |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. And you feel entitled due to being wrong? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. that just does not follow |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Er, no, you haven't been reading DU for the past 8 or so months? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. What makes you think that people expressing their heartfelt desires for their nation... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Because they were demanding things that the system was not |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. If that's true, then why not simply correct them instead of demonize them? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. classic projection |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
105. The Royal Left? That about sums it up. |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 02:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
135. Sounded like you were describing the Repugs |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. No, they seem to BELIEVE in fucking Democracy! Enough of this intimidation |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
89. +1 |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
35. the 19% are real progressives who believe in principle over power. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. and notice nobody is talking about how that number has GROWN dramatically? |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. if grown means reduced then you are correct |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
106. or who believe in power despite lack of majority |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
37. Great question. I have always wondered about that myself. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
47. Much to the disappointment of many liberal detractors on DU who bash the president, |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. self-identified liberals |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Yes, Self-identified liberals! Are you going to question whether they are truly liberals now? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. IMHO too many people think "liberal" means not republican |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Too many people who don't think *exactly* as you do? Or, people that |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. no, too many people that don't *espouse* traditional liberal views.. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. What are "traditional liberal values," sport? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. how about war? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Obama is working on both |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #75 |
142. So as long as he said he needed to escalate war, and then did it, that means he's a liberal? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Don't you know, honey pie? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. I guess not. DU has all the answers. n/t |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 01:35 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. If you don't like the answers... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. I don't give a shit about the answers, really. I already know what I believe |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #87 |
107. these are the "true" self-identified liberals |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Enemies are more satisfyingly evil when we make them up in our own heads, aren't they? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. And easier to do when we try to claim purity of thought |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Show me a link. Prove to me that's not exactly what you're doing. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Since i support the compromises simply by nature |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #107 |
146. Evangelical Fundementalist Liberals!!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Yes, 78%. Enjoy your stay. |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. And it must be noted that those 78% are, to a person, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
70. Considering that those numbers were lower for Clinton at this point |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
72. I'd be interested to know what proportion of each set of liberals |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
79. It doesn't matter what they call themselves or what you call them. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
81. I 'd feel safer if I didn't hear this exact same argument in '99. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
88. I love how we always implode when in power... it is something that never changes... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
90. Because the 19% are blustery and spiky, like puffer fish. |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
94. Many of the people that oppose... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
98. The 19% are the ones that know he isn't liberal? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
108. The 19% will have their way or they will tear us apart |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Shouldn't spend most of our time lying about common goals and principles to wrangle votes |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #116 |
120. Or reject totalitarian binary thinking |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
115. I hope these threads continue and multiply through 2012. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #115 |
129. When Obama wins anyway |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
128. I don't claim to be the party base |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. He was not for the tax cuts for the rich |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
131. I'm not upset with him just for the tax cuts |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 06:11 AM Response to Reply #131 |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-11 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
132. His Base? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
143. Americans, and most Democrats, are dumb. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #143 |
149. yup |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #143 |
151. Have you ever considered that instead of the problem being with everyone else's viwes, the problem |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 08:22 AM Response to Reply #151 |
152. I know what makes a real Democrat. |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
145. Sure, but how do True Scotsmen feel about Obama? |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
147. because we eat our own |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-11 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
150. expectations have been very much lowered |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-11 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
153. Reagan Democrats |
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