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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 06:35 PM
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'King Of The Birthers,' Announces Presidential Run
A recent rekindling of "birther" news has compelled Andy Martin, who calls himself "king of the birthers," to announce a run for the White House in 2012, becoming the first GOP candidate to officially do so.

On New Hampshire's WTPL radio, Martin spoke about the commotion caused by incoming Gov. Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii) -- who said earlier this week that he would take actions to squelch the Obama citizenship conspiracy theory once and for all. Martin claimed that his candidacy would prevent the citizenship issue from fading further into the fringe.

"I'm going to have a tremendous impact on the presidential election, not because I'm the frontrunner. I mean, clearly at this point I'm not," he said. "But I'll be driving the agenda in the Republican Party."

In a release on the presidential announcement, Martin said that his "birther" platform will be "designed to force Barack Obama to authorize the release of Obama's original birth certificate and college records."

Harris suggested in the interview that he also believed Obama may have enrolled at Harvard Law School as a Muslim, that his tuition may have been funded by "Saudi money," and that the Clintons were the ones behind the perpetuation of "birther" rumors.

But, as The Los Angeles Times points out:

actually believes Obama was born in Hawaii, as has been verified by the state with a Certificate of Live Birth. But he believes the White House is blocking the release of the president's full birth certificate because it could contain embarrassing information.
"My campaign doesn't say he was born here or he was born there, it says produce the facts," Harris said. "Tell the truth to the American people. If you want our confidence, if you want our young men and women our sons and daughters and brothers and sisters and nephews and nieces to die for your policies, we have to trust you."

Harris, who has been plagued by accusations of anti-Semitism, was visible early this election season as a Republican primary candidate for U.S. Senate in Illinois. Martin became known for his bombastic mudslinging during the campaign, referring to now-Senate-elect Mark Kirk as both a "homosexual" and a "pedophile."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/30/andy-martin-birther-president_n_802767.html
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 07:01 PM
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1. Whatever siphons off Republican votes is a good thing. Teabaggers need to go full third party.
Abandon the Republicans. They are just using you.

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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 08:42 PM
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4. Especially if jerkhead Nader runs again in 2012
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 07:34 PM
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2. This will good for a laugh
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 08:27 PM
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3. College records will prove what exactly about Obama's citizenship?
Seriously, demanding the president's college records? Thinking that there's somehow proof that he's a Muslim in college records.

First of all you could probably get that information by just asking the college, or doing some research.

And second of all, wonder how many times he's going to be asked by people running debates why the hundreds of pictures of Obama's birth certificate you can look up online (seriously, do a good image search on 'Obama Birth Certificate' and 3/4's of the image on page 1 are pictures of the birth certificate.

Not to mention how often will he be asked why the word of dozens of news and fact checking organizations that were loaned his birth certificate to investigate who said it was legit aren't good enough.

I look most forward to other republicans being asked if they believe in the Obama birth certificate conspiracy, it'll make it easy to mock and ridicule them in the general election if they're stupid enough to say they do question his citizenship.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 09:56 PM
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5. Didn't you hear the latest from the freepers?:
"BO is NOT constitutionally qualified to be POTUS regardless of where he was born because by his own admission his dad was a British/Kenyan citizen."

I won't link to it, but I WILL link to the definition of "natural born citizen," which proves the freepers wrong:

"Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.


http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

So Obama is a U.S. citizen, no matter WHERE his father was born. And the only reason the birthers are moving the goalpost is because they now know he HAS a "long form birth certificate." :rofl:

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 12:19 AM
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6. Tin foil hats for everyone! n/t
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