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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:30 PM
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Q: Was the Medicare early buy-in plan a trade for the public option
or is there still a decent chance there will be a PO in HCR?

My question would imply that HCR isn't a priority for me....au contraire. But I do have to admit that I've been away from the boards and not paying close attention over the past several weeks.

So, help me out. Was this medicare buy in thing a substitute of trade for the PO? I'm not totally getting it.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:32 PM
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1. no - you got it
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:32 PM
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2. Yes, the PO will be in the FINAL bill, people are hyperventilating because civics is not taught in..
...classrooms any longer thanx to republicans hatred of America's government.

The final bill out of committee will have the public option and Lieberman will sit looking stupid as he's stripped of his chairmanship
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beaglelover Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:33 PM
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4. I highly doubt a PO will be in the final bill. We'll see. n/t
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:35 PM
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7. The house has to be ratify in joint, there's NO FREAKIN way it's coming out of the house without a..
...PO or medicare buy in.

Either way, it's not over till it over...don't mind losing some battles of the war is mine...
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:38 PM
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9. My question wasn't in regard to your opinon. I was asking about the facts. n/t
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:34 PM
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5. I hope your Pollyanna optimism is correct....But I'm not holding my breath
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:37 PM
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8. I took civics class, you can call it what you want but joint comittee HAS to be initiated if this
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 03:37 PM by uponit7771
...pass's without PubOption.

Lincoln, Lieberman, Nelson et al do NOT WANT ANY health care reform.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:44 PM
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11. LOL
PO will most assuredly not be in the final bill, with possible and distant exception of some trigger thing Snowe signs onto.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:59 PM
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12. And that's what my money is on....
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 03:59 PM by Clio the Leo
... if a PO is in the final bill, it will be via a trigger. (With Lieberman someone how changing his mind and supporting it.)

ETA: Wait.... if they have Snowe they dont need Lieberman. I forgot about that.

We shall see.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:32 PM
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3. I think it was a diversion to push the PO off the radar so it could be killed
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:42 PM
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10. Seems so... nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:00 PM
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13. Word on the street was that Lieberman's change of heart...
..... took them all by surprise. I think one of the reasons why they went with the buy in was because they thought he'd support it. And he indicated as such (that he might) last week.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:13 PM
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14. Thats very likely
His excuses about not supporting a Medicare buy in this morning was all over the map.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:35 PM
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6. Yes. I believe it was Rockefeller who brought it up
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 03:35 PM by Cleita
when the public option was removed. It was felt at least the 55 to 65 crowd could get some health care because they are in a demographic that insurers don't want to cover, but I guess even this it was still too much for President Liarman. He apparently wants no public health care at all to be offered.
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