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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:52 PM
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How much should Federal Employees pay for their health insurance?
as a percentage of total cost?

(also please indicate if your employer provides yours and what percentage of the total premium you pay)
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:55 PM
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1. I got news for you, employers do not 'provide' insurance - that's your money they're using
You just don't get a say in the matter.

It's funny that we don't want government to spend our money for us, but we're perfectly happy letting corporations do the same.

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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:56 PM
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2. What ever they're able to negotiate...if they belong to a union.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:05 PM
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3. benefits are set by congress and the president --they don't get to negotiate them
this despite the fact that they have unions representing them.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 02:25 PM
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9. Then, who are we to say how much someone in civil service should be compensated
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Drahthaardogs Donating Member (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:04 PM
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4. It really depends
The feds have lots of insurance options that vary by region and state. HMO and PPOs as well as high programs and low programs. All in all, its probably on average a 40/60 split or there abouts.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:12 PM
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5. Right. Thanks for the facts.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:35 PM
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6. Thanks for this. People also forget that we federal employees DO have the public option.
What is being described in this thread *IS* the public option.

People also forget that members of Congress, their staff, and their families also enjoy the public option.

Member of Congress *ARE* also federal employees!!
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:24 PM
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7. Huh? FEHBP is administered by private insurers.
It's not a public option.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:05 PM
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19. Yes! We are on an exchange where we can choose public
or private insurance companies. That is exactly what we and members of Congress have!
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:26 PM
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8. Depends on personal? Family? etc.
I'm pretty much in favor of employers taking care of the whole baseline (100%) of minimal for an employee, but if somebody gets married and has 5 kids, and a single person doesn't also get the same economic contribution... hm.

Something to think about, especially with different people wanting vastly different choices in service (some would rather have the money and a high-deductable plan, others want dental/eyecare/chiropractic/therapy/massage).

I pay nothing for insurance, as I haven't been able to afford it since I was 18, as I'm "pre-existing", and it's cheaper for me to go without.... in the last 21 years, I went to the ER once. Cost $6,000 (2 hours of bed, blood oxygen monitoring, oxygen mask, 2 X-rays, a prescription....$6,000).

So, until there's a plan that costs me only 24 bucks a month, that's just money in the hands of the insurers.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 03:54 PM
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10. They should pay 0%.

It should come out of ours, theirs and everybody else's taxes. As should everybody else's health care.

But as long as we insist on enriching middle men who provide no service related to our health care whatsoever while insisting this somehow makes health care better without even citing a theory as to how this could possibly improve health care then I would say ... 0%. It's part of their pay for working for the taxpayer particularly since so many gov't workers live and work near state and the nation's capitols where costs are high and their pay is less than the typical professional doing that type of job.

And to your second question, I pay a very small percentage of my health insurance. I have a very good employer.


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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 04:11 PM
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11. 25%
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:12 PM
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24. you want them to pay less than they pay now?
:shrug:
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 04:28 PM
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12. Health insurance and life insurance came out of my pocket when I was civil service. We don't pay
into social security because we have our own pension play. Of course that is when I was civil service back in 80s. When I went back you paid into social security to I think I did. It was a long time ago.

We pay like everyoneelse does.

I don't think politicans should get any pension unless like a military service person they are in over 20 yrs.
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:57 PM
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13. 50% is the standard...
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:09 PM
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23. what companies?
:hi:
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:06 PM
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14. The first question to ask is what % members of CONGRESS pay.
Let's start there.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:53 PM
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15. Federal Employees pay 30% toward the cost of there health care
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 06:54 PM by bigdarryl
this is what dough nut boy in NJ is trying to model his proposal after for NJ State workers. It ain't CHEAP!!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:53 PM
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16. There should be single payer.
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 08:05 PM by JVS
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:54 PM
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17. I am paying 25%
Federals should pay same as AVERAGE of all private plans.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:08 PM
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22. you're paying less than federal employees, they pay 28% or more
:hi:
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:19 PM
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25. That is good!
:D
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:56 PM
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18. A single payer system is needed ASAP
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:24 PM
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20. Most federal employees pay between 25-30% currently
I do not believe it should be raised.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:27 PM
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21. I can tell you that for some drugs their co-pay is a flat $65
and these are drugs in the area of $6,000
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:30 PM
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26. We should have universal health insurance in which everyone pays based on their income
that is the only way that and all of the issues in health coverage can be dealt with.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 08:39 PM
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27. Nothing
anyway you slice it, it is all taxpayers dollars. People have fallen in love with busting these dollars up into little piles believing that one flavor of money is different than another. It isn't, it is all taxpayer greenbacks, one identical to the next, except for the serial number.

Deducting some dollars from the paycheck to "pay" for health insurance is precisely the same as an across the board pay cut. There is exactly no difference. So just be honest, either call for a pay cut or don't.
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Macoy51 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 09:12 AM
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28. 37%


I pay 37% of my Fed Health insureance.

Macoy
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