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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:38 AM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:56 AM
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1. So now the meme is
there's no difference between Obama and Romney (Gore = Bush)?

Really? Send that to the RNC, they'll love it.

RomneyCare maybe an albatross around Romney's neck in trying to win the GOP primary, but there is no such thing. The Mass health care became law despite Romney's veto:

In fall 2005 the House and Senate each passed health care reform bills.

The legislature made a number of changes to Governor Romney's original proposal, including expanding MassHealth (Medicaid and SCHIP) coverage to low-income children and restoring funding for public health programs. The most controversial change was the addition of a provision which requires firms with 11 or more workers that do not provide "fair and reasonable" health coverage to their workers to pay an annual penalty. This contribution, initially $295 annually per worker, is intended to equalize the free care pool charges imposed on employers who do and do not cover their workers. The legislature also rejected Governor Romney's proposal to permit even higher-deductible, lower benefit health plans.

On April 12, 2006 Governor Mitt Romney signed the health legislation.<19> He vetoed 8 sections of the health care legislation, including the controversial employer assessment.<20> Romney also vetoed provisions providing dental benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid.<21><22> The legislature promptly overrode six of the eight gubernatorial section vetoes, on May 4, 2006, and by mid-June 2006 had overridden the remaining two.

And no, Romney http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=679703&mesg_id=679705">wouldn't have saved the auto industry.

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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 08:06 AM
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2. Oh come on
The meme is, Obama accomplished something we had all been waiting for (killing Osama), while Mittens has only some old Olympics story to boast about. In Whom would you place your confidence as commander in chief?

Don't go looking for negative messages where there they ain't.
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Matt_in_STL Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 08:08 AM
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3. I didn't get that from the cartoon at all
What I got was that the bona fides of Romney would not match up to the terrorist hunting prowess of President Obama. President Obama can pull the "I got Osama" card while Romney only has a successful Olympics as his shining moment.

Aside from the cartoon, I do agree that there are several false equivalencies trying to be made, expecially when it comes to the current healthcare reform bill and Romneycare.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:09 PM
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8. Step back from the cartoon, Pro.... put down the blue pen
Maybe, just maybe, you may be reading it all wrong.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:57 PM
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10. "put down the blue pen"
You type with a pen?

Still, you're right I'm reading too much into it, but I get where Rall is coming from.

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 12:01 PM
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13. Obama is highlighting their similarities
Which is a smart move. It makes it very hard for Romney to beat him if people don't see a difference.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 01:15 PM
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15. That wasn't my interpretation of the cartoon.
President Obama has accomplished something many Americans are excited about, Romney hasn't.

Of course art is always open to interpretation, and I am not saying yours is wrong, just different than mine.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 09:32 AM
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4. Wait a minute. Ted Rall made that?
I'm a little shocked.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:29 PM
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5. Little (but good) detail: Look at the podium seals
One says "President of the United States"

The other? "Former Guv Massachusetts"

Great cartoon!!

Bake
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:41 PM
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6. I like the comparison of the accomoplishments, but... um...
why does Obama look simian?
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 10:07 PM
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7. Because Rall is a shitty artist.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 07:35 AM
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18. That was my first impression, and it still is.


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Cracklin Charlie Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:10 PM
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9. Is that true?
Did mittens really "save" the Olympics? That whole scenario seems like Mormon hero making.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 11:32 AM
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11. LOL. Good one.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 11:50 AM
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12. Romney's Olympics that he "saved" ended up being one of the most corrupt and graft-laden in history.
Edited on Sat May-28-11 11:51 AM by 4lbs
So, yeah, remind people of that, Mittens.

The Utah Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Mormon land.

Hooray!

Where French and Russian figure skating judges conspired with each other to deny Canadians and Americans proper scores.

Where the Olympic selection committee was showered with MONEY and millions of dollars worth of gifts, to bribe, no, entice, no lure, no, um... "make offerings" to the Olympic "gods" to grant them the Olympics.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Winter_Olympic_bid_scandal

http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/jan1999/olym-j13.shtml

http://web.ksl.com/TV/olympics/sloc/

http://figureskating.about.com/od/historicalskatingevents/p/controvery2002.htm



Yes, Mitt Romney can point to that as a shining achievement!
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BernieSandersIsGod Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 12:05 PM
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14. That's a horrible representation of Obama and kinda offensive. nt
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:28 PM
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17. Typical from Ted Rall
See his other cartoons if you want to see more than kind of offensive representations of Obama.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 08:14 PM
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16. Obama kind of looks like Gerald Ford in that picture.
Edited on Sat May-28-11 08:15 PM by craigmatic
Mittens is going to need more than the olympics to save him.
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