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Vicar In A Tutu Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 02:49 AM
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"Romney is such a frightening candidate"
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 03:09 AM by Vicar In A Tutu
I heard this kind of thing before the last election. He's the sane, rational, photogenic face of the GOP, the only one who could deliver the win for them, etc.

Please remember that this is the man who failed to come close to beating a past prime, crumbling John McCain.

Mitt Romney is one of those politicians who looks the part, but will always struggle to connect sufficiently with a wider audience. He's the GOP's (vastly inferior) version of John Kerry, and despite his lagging approval ratings at the moment, Obama is a far greater candidate, with far more votes having been laid down for him than ever were for Bush.

By the way, the Kerry comparisons are superficial only. He has far less of a record to run on, and what there IS is far more easily dismissed. John Kerry, whether you believe that he was robbed of Ohio or not, still lost the popular vote by a considerable margin. In all likelihood, Romney will lose by a greater amount.

Obama, for his flaws, isn't the typical single term President. He didn't get the job by having to finish of someone else's second term (Ford). He didn't scrape home In a squeaker (Carter) and he wasn't the VP of an administration in decline who only won because he had a drab opponent and then who may - may - not have lost were it not for an incredibly strong third party candidate.

Maybe Obama won't win...it's possible, of course, but he's in a far more formidable position than many believe at this point in time.
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shotten99 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 03:17 AM
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1. Perry concerns me more than Mittens.
But I wonder if ol' Rick didn't join the fight a little too late?
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Celebrandil Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 05:00 AM
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2. Ahead due to name recognition.
I agree. I think the reason why he's ahead in the polls is primarily due to name recognition. In fact, if you take that into account, I don't believe he's ahead at all. In the debate he acted as if he was in the lead, but I think that was a mistake. I think one should be more concerned with Perry, who is doing fine, even before officially entering. On the other hand, I think Romney would appeal more to swing voters, than Perry, but that is just my hunch. A dream candidate against Obama would in my mind be Bachmann, who would be torn to pieces in no time.

From Sweden with Love.

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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 04:01 PM
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13. You mean this dude?


Looks like a soap opera actor to me.
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BackToThe60s Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:29 AM
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3. Everytry R Presidential candidate has a weakness
Mitt Romney is a flip-flopper; that might not doom him among the True Believers, but his Mormonism probably will, sad to say, even in the 21st century.

Michele Bachmann is a woman, and I honestly believe this will turn off more GOP voters than the fact that she's totally fucking insane.

Herman Cain. Republican. Do the math.

Jon Hunstman, another Mormon who worked for Obama! EWWWWWWWWW!

Tim Pawlenty: :boring:

Rick Santorum: :rofl:

Ron Paul...Uh, Ron? Wake up, Ron!

Rick Perry, 2012's answer to Fred Thompson.

Newt Gingrich has many problems, principal among them the fact that his current wife is a Cylon.

Which leaves---Youbetcha!---The Sainted Savior! A woman, like Bachmann, to be sure, but also the Everyman's Porno Librarian. The media has done all they can do to her, and she still draws adoring crowds. The GOP Establishment is about to get hit by a Bus, with, I'll venture a guess, Rubio riding shotgun.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 08:44 AM
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4. The are all scary. Romney seems the less scary of them all.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:47 AM
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6. They Are All Frightening But Romney Is The Scariest Because He Can Win
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:13 PM
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10. I don't think many fundies will vote for a mormon.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 04:14 PM
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14. And others will not vote for MORON!
And Mitt the Twitt is a MORON!!

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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:45 AM
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5. Maybe, but remember that Mittens can't help but say stupid shit.
"Corporations are people" Expect more glaring gaffs from him. Remember the dog barking thing?
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 11:55 AM
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7. Executives like him are use to saying stupid shit all day and having their
yes men tell them how great they are for saying it. Won't be able to train that out of him by election time.

He is a gaff machine.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 12:16 PM
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8. His father George was the same way. He claimed he had received a "brainwashing" on Vietnam
Senator Eugene McCarthy sharply observed, "I would have thought a light rinse would have been sufficient.”

On August 31, 1967, in a taped interview with talk show host Lou Gordon of WKBD-TV in Detroit, Romney stated: "When I came back from Viet Nam , I'd just had the greatest brainwashing that anybody can get." He then shifted to opposing the war: "I no longer believe that it was necessary for us to get involved in South Vietnam to stop Communist aggression in Southeast Asia." Decrying the "tragic" conflict, he urged "a sound peace in South Vietnam at an early time." Thus Romney disavowed the war and reversed himself from his earlier stated belief that the war was "morally right and necessary".<138>

The "brainwashing" reference had been an offhand, unplanned remark that came at the end of a long, behind-schedule day of campaigning.<150> By September 7 it found its way into prominence at The New York Times.<143> Eight other governors who had been on the same 1965 trip as Romney said no such activity had taken place, with one of them, Philip H. Hoff of Vermont, saying Romney's remarks were "outrageous, kind of stinking ... Either he's a most naïve man or he lacks judgment."<118> The connotations of brainwashing, following the experiences of American prisoners of war (highlighted by the 1962 film The Manchurian Candidate), made Romney's comments devastating,<138> especially as it reinforced the negative image of Romney's abilities that had already developed.<141> The topic of brainwashing quickly became newspaper editorial and television talk show fodder, with Romney bearing the brunt of the topical humor.<138> Senator Eugene McCarthy, running against Johnson for the Democratic nomination, said that in Romney's case, "a light rinse would have been sufficient."<143> Republican Congressman Robert T. Stafford of Vermont sounded a common concern: "If you're running for the presidency, you are supposed to have too much on the ball to be brainwashed."<138> After the remark was aired, Romney's poll ratings nosedived, going from 11 percent behind Nixon to 26 percent behind.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney#1968_presidential_campaign

I have no worries about Mitt the Twitt. He comes across as a country club Repuke, and his "corporations are people too" comment won't play well outside of that group.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 12:54 PM
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9. romney is the chosen one
all of w's puppetmasters are on his team. got nothing to do with votes or voters.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:53 PM
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11. The GOP : the party where the Mormons come closest to being the sane ones.
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 01:58 PM by Faryn Balyncd


...and amazingly, it was one of the Mormons who was the only one to acknowledge support of domestic partnerships.



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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 03:56 PM
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12. Everyone can look good when the campaign against them
hasn't started.
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