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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:23 PM
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POLL: Democratic Base Solidly Behind Obama
Democratic Base Solidly Behind Obama

A new CNN/Opinion Research poll finds President Obama's base is behind him with 70% of Democrats saying they'd like to see Obama as their party's presidential nominee next year.

Notes pollster Keating Holland: "In 1994, only 57% of Democrats wanted the party to renominate Bill Clinton, and he went on to win the nomination and a second term two years later."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/08/14/democratic_base_solidly_behind_obama.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PoliticalWire+%28Political+Wire%29
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:24 PM
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1. Incoming!
:nuke:
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 04:09 PM
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11. Hostiles! Cloaking Device engaged!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:28 PM
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2. K & R
:thumbsup:
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boxman15 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:32 PM
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3. I really don't get why the media is pushing the "liberals are abandoning Obama" meme.
If they said he's losing conservative Democrats or independents, that would be backed up by reality (especially Conservadems, independent approval rating has been low for a while now). But, Gallup has Obama's approval rating among liberal Democrats at 83%, Democrats overall at 78%, and liberals overall at 70%.

His liberal base is sticking with him. The key is getting moderates and independents back on his side (not that they're with the GOP). If he campaigns well and lets people know exactly what the GOP is doing, there's no doubt they will come back, especially if he's facing a Bachmannesque candidate.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:34 PM
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5. Several other polls released today are showing that is the case
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 03:34 PM by Harmony Blue
This is why there is a lot of missinformation at this time.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:34 PM
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22. I di dnot see any
Do you have examples?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:51 PM
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7. They're driving the negativity narrative to discourage Dems.
Look how well it works around here. "We're doomed!" has been posted more than once.

They want to sell the message that the President is weak, that he's in trouble, that it's time for the GOP to take over.

Some corners of the Left are helping out with the first two of those. The third, if the MSM keeps pushing the lie over and over, could come about - or so the GOP backers hope.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 04:12 PM
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12. this is good news.
even tho the CNNs are doing all they can bye lieing and falsifying and pedestalizing Pugs while denigrating Obama, Democrats are onto them and don't listen to that shit.

I am pleased as punch.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:22 PM
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20. The same reason people are doing it here.......
they think their Democrats.......and they didn't get their ponies.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:34 PM
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4. This should come as no surprise. The question is what will the independents do? /nt
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:46 PM
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6. K & frickin' R
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:52 PM
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8. should be 90%. i like the glass half full attitude of people on DU tho. n/t
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:56 PM
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9. K&R.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:58 PM
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10. The problem is that he's lost virtually all of the independents
The question is do they vote GOP or stay home this time?
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:37 PM
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23. He may get them back
most independents are not crazies and they may come back after the R nominee is chosen. Unless it is Romney who is only a make believe crazy ans may moderate some of his positions if he end up being the nominee (long practice at flip flopping may help).
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:17 PM
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28. I agree - if the GOP nominates Romney or Huntsman, he's in trouble
I don't think independents are going to be nearly as enthusiastic about Bachmann, Perry or Palin.

OTOH, if Ron Paul somehow got the nomination, I have no idea what would happen.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 04:12 PM
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13. oof to the rec room with ya
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 04:22 PM
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14. The difference is that Clinton won support of independents... Obama is not.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 04:40 PM
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15. That's cause Clinton gave Independents what they wanted.....
Welfare reform, End to Banking regulations, and NAFTA. Also DADT and DOMA.

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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 05:23 PM
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16. Obama has too... yet this has not happened.
All polling indicates that independents are leaning Republican currently.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 05:56 PM
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18. "Obama has too"? Bullshit. Prove it.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 05:57 PM by ClarkUSA
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:53 PM
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24. The health care deal that screws Americans and favors insurance companies...
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 07:00 PM by Fearless
2. Supporting extending free trade without needed reforms and protections.
3. Continuing two wars and starting a third.
4. Spending money we don't have and refusing to fight for revenue.
5. Dragging his heels on DOMA and DADT so much so that the court had to tell them to get their asses in gear.
6. Chastising liberals for wanting the change we voted for.
7. Appeasing Republicans and giving up Elizabeth Warren without a fight.
8. Giving Republicans exactly what they wanted on the debt ceiling limit.
9. Trading the slashing of SS and Medicare/Medicaid for a shell game.
10. Accepting and extending the tax cuts for the wealthy without argument.
11. Guantanamo Bay is still open.
12. Treasury Secretary Geitner and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, and countless other REPUBLICANS appointed to positions of power by the administrations.
13. Extending the PATRIOT ACT.
14. Arne Duncan
15. Rahm Emanuel
16. ZERO prosecutions of Bush Administration law breakers.

And don't make that BS claim that Congress did these things. The point is he didn't EVEN fight. He gave in on EVERYTHING IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT CONFRONTATION.


I repeat: Obama has too.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 07:55 PM
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27. That's pure negative rhetoric. I said PROVE IT, which means credible sources that back you up.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 07:56 PM by ClarkUSA
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:47 PM
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30. Politics is rhetoric and Obama's rhetoric is Republican.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:06 PM
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31. LOL! That's more simplistic negative rhetoric without a shred of proof to back it up.
:nopity:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 06:27 AM
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35. Reminding you that politics is defined as rhetoric is negative? I don't think so.
You just don't want to hear what I'm saying and will provide the emoticon equivelent to sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "Nah nah nah nah nah!" to do so.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 05:43 PM
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37. Yawn.
:boring:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 05:45 PM
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38. If that's the case, you should enter politics. You're a natural.
:rofl:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 07:45 AM
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39. Condescension, the lowest form of debate.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 05:48 PM
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17. I'm really starting to believe that all these 'approval' polls are made up.
I know so many people who are pissed off at the government, and Obama gets more blame than maybe he should, but he is top dog. I don't see that high of an approval rating. Could it be that those who support Obama are being lured into a false sense of security? Maybe he is in more trouble than the polls really show. Who can you really believe?

zalinda
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:15 PM
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19. "made up"?
:rofl:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:55 PM
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25. That's what DU thought in the 2010 election season.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 06:56 PM by Fearless
We couldn't possible lose that much... right? We tend to only believe that which furthers our arguments. All of us. All other polls saying otherwise are false or fake.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 07:17 PM
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26. Hey! You believe want you want to believe, huh?
:rofl:
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:30 PM
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21. Who else is there?
No Dem is offering a primary challenge, so the only Dems who aren't going to support Obama are the ones who plan on not voting.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:20 PM
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29. And has been since he was sworn in. No surprises here
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 09:42 PM
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32. Cool, then those of us who are unhappy can vote our conscious
and write in someone else. Thanks!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:29 PM
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33. The difference is that under Clinton the economy was the best it had been in 40 years.
:shrug:
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:45 PM
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34. not at the begining of his term
:shrug:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 06:36 AM
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36. The base is the base for a reason.
Elections are lost or won by capturing the votes from the independent 'swing' voters.
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