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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 03:39 PM
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Hollywood Giving Obama the Cold Shoulder?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disappointed-hollywood-giving-obama-cold-shoulder-236068


As the 2012 election fund-raising cycle heats up, the onetime darling is finding far less enthusiasm from the showbiz donors who tell THR what went wrong.

At this point in the previous presidential election cycle, Barack Obama was a Hollywood heartthrob. The entertainment industry's ardent Democratic activists couldn't dig deep enough into their wallets to finance his ambitious run for the Oval Office.

Today, the industry remains with the president, but the disenchantment is increasingly palpable, and even devoted Democrats are approaching his re-election campaign with all the enthusiasm of a studio contractually obligated to finance a dubious sequel.

Obama certainly is raising major money in Hollywood -- $2.53 million during the first six months of 2011, with two more events scheduled for Sept. 26. As Andy Spahn, one of Obama's chief showbiz fund-raisers, points out, "We've sold out every event." Doing so, however, has required deft organization and more than a little arm-twisting. Another Obama fund-raiser described the process as "tough, tough, tough." Four years ago, candidate Obama's mere presence guaranteed a turn-away crowd.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 03:45 PM
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1. I really don't give a fuck about Hollywood. Much like DU they're small.
They may have money but their irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Maybe they should go back to their home states and get people motivated in their former communities---maybe then they'd be worth our time. I fuckin' hate anything about over payed idiots in Hollywood.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 03:48 PM
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2. They do however, have deep pockets. I think much of this has to do
with environmental and union decisions. The whole article is pretty interesting...
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:07 PM
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5. Wow, what other professions do you rail against 'for Obama'?
The entertainment industry, one of the few that still make product in America and export it, are Union members. The few you read about in your magazines are not the life blood of that industry, which is composed mostly of middle class working people. The entertainment industry also does not warm up well to the 'We are Sanctified and you are not' religious bigotry stuff in the public square.
To hate everything in Hollywood is to hate artists, craftsmen, electricians, actors, writers, directors, caterers, painters, carpenters, Teamsters....that's just the way it is outside fan mag land. Deal with it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:11 PM
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7. Plus The Soft Power We Still Have Left Comes From Our Cultural Influence
.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:20 PM
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9. Whoa! This is an article I posted here. If you didn't like it, TS..I most
certainly am not railing or hating anything in Hollywood. You deal with it.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:21 PM
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10. My comment was not addressed to you.
Now was it?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:22 PM
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11. I Think He Was Referring To The Other Poster
BTW, our culture, much of which comes from Hollywood, is still one thing most of the world wants.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:32 PM
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15. Again, I did not address you, so saying tough shit to me was
uncalled for. You have a nice day.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:35 PM
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16. Sincere apologies...n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:08 AM
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27. I have no problems with you posting your article.
But considering a discussion board it is open to my discussions and it's TS that you'd have to deal with my outlook on things. I think they are not important in the political framework. We could spend our time doing more productive things---like listing all the liberal candidates running for public in 2012 and propping them up here so we can take back the house and maybe steal a few seats in the Senate. Instead we're worrying about an opinion peace on the moneybags in Hollywood. They are part of the 1%----me don't care---I stated it.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:29 PM
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13. Sorry, my bad. No glasses when typing not good...n/t
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:37 PM
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17. thank you
and to think I just snarked at you about reading glasses. The poster I was addressing is speaking about my industry, my Unions, most everyone I know, my bread, my butter and a side of fries.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:59 PM
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19. To be fair, the article wasn't talking about the gaffers and caterers and carpenters
They were talking "stars" and big-time producers. Because that's where the glamour and big money is. Obama was never getting those $32,500 checks ($2500 to him, $30K to the DNC) from the lighting technicians and electricians.

This is about the kook kidz getting bored with last year's fads, no doubt.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:51 PM
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22. Bored with last year's fads?
Or perhaps disappointed with the President? I think probably the latter. Hollywood is by and large reliably LIBERAL, which is more than you can say for our Prez.

Bake
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:05 AM
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26. And those were the people my post was directed towards these are not middle class working people. nt
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:04 AM
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25. You are something else. You don't KNOW me so don't presume shit.
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 05:12 AM by vaberella
I have always hated Hollywood since I was a teen. I have in my private life and on this board hated all things surrounding the over payed freaks in Hollywood---I think I stated that in my post which refers to the article, but you probably didn't read it based on your unrelated tirade to me. This has nothing to do with Obama. They are irrelevant fucks to me and I am not shy about saying it. Even when I joined here in 2008 or so, I didn't care about actors who publicly supported Obama or those that did not. They are all a waste of air to me.

So I suggest you check yourself. I have said before and I will say again...I have no beef with script writers, or the middle class people. They aren't even the ones talked about in the article. I find actors to be over-payed pricks who are paid for doing shit. Theatre actors who are worth their weight don't get an inkling of the money Hollywood people do...and the decadent life they live. And second of all don't tell me what to deal with and what not too. I'm a fuckin' adult with my own thoughts, emotions and ideas. I don't like actors of today and I have no problems stating I hate them. I hate popular singers too...
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:11 PM
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33. Another huge stretch from you.
Vaberella was clearly referring to the Hollywood elite (hence the "overpaid" reference), not the middle-class working people in the industry that you're hiding your disingenuous argument behind. It's not those workers who are the major fundraisers in the article.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:01 PM
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30. LOL....I'll assume you don't give a shit about fund raising either.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:34 PM
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38. Obama made more through small donations than the big money spenders.
And I don't care about big money spenders---but the American people who are working hard to give what they can to someone they believe in. I think there's more to fundraising than how much of the money you can make. But proving that you can keep the people you have and get a few more on the side. Big money spenders come and go. The little people remain consistent, if they trust you.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:02 PM
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3. My God!
The republican plan to obstruct ant progress and make Obama look week is working better than they could have ever imagined...they have fooled so many people...they are geniuses (in a bad way of course).
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:06 PM
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4. You forgot the sarcasm smilie. n/t
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:10 PM
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6. I was not being sarcastic
they are geniuses...seriously...it's well know that early on in Obama's presidency the repubs agreed to obstruct at every moment because they felt it would make Obama look weak and he would lose confidence from his own party...it's worked out pretty well for them, right? It's all happening now...things don't get done = country suffers = people blame Obama - liberals are fooled and blame Obama...THEY ARE FUCKING GENIUSES....But I mean that in a bad way (much like Hitler was known to be very smart but in a bad way of course.

Having said all of that, I will say that Obama has little to nothing getting this through to the country and his messaging sucks.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:04 PM
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24. The "republican plan"....
:spray:

Yeah, that right...the GOP is turning Hollywood against Obama.

:rofl:

Here's a dollar...

Go buy a clue.

(Hint - It's not the GOP, it's because Obama is a CONSERVATIVE)
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:37 PM
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34. He's right. In a round about way
Liberals are bring fooled and were fooled :shrug: but I don't think it was the GOP doing the fooling.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:02 PM
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31. Obama was weak. Starting in the middle on most topics and caving on others.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:12 PM
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8. Another anti-Obama hit piece
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 04:30 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
I swear the media won't stop until this man is out of office and hated by everybody- just like the last guy they puffed up so much only to be hoisted up by his own petard. :banghead:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:22 PM
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12. I agree.
Comcast, CAA, DreamWorks Among Biggest Biz Donors To Obama Campaign

The entertainment industry is doing its part to get President Obama re-elected, according to a new report from the Center for Responsive Politics, as media-related donations account for $2.53 million, or 6.5%, of the campaign’s contributions through June, and the Los Angeles metro area — home to Hollywood — is tops nationwide in support, with residents donating $5.18 million (followed by New York City at $5.12 million.)


http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/comcast-caa-dreamworks-among-biggest-biz-donors-to-obama-campaign/
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:29 PM
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14. Articles like this also fail to mention
that the Republicans' numbers are much worse and that all of these "disaffected" groups aren't turning around and signing up with the Republicans either.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:53 PM
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18. Rich people


If a candidate gets a million dollars, it's OK if it came from Hollywood but not OK if it came from a corporation. Weird.

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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:57 PM
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40. It is spelled hypocrisy!
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:03 PM
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20. The problem is that Obama has squandered much of the enthusiasm through his endless capitulation
It's not just Hollywood, average voters are also disillusioned.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 06:01 PM
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23. Average voters want bipartisanship.
"Endless capitulation"....aw screw it, we will agree to disagree.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:07 PM
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29. The vast majority of this country lives in a world
where compromise is a daily part of life.

I'm sorry that we don't live in a liberal utopia, but we don't and we can't keep acting like we do.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:06 PM
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21. Of course, this all plays into the M$M narrative that Obama's "lost his base".
Why would/should enthusiasm be the same as in 2008? Which modern president can lay claim to that? And why would "Obama's chief showbiz fundraiser" tell the media they've had to "arm-twist" to fill an event? This doesn't smell right. If I didn't want to organize & fundraise for him, I would just quit, and no amount of "arm-twisting" in the world could make me attend an event that my heart wasn't into. :shrug:

This is just another in a long line of hitpieces, intended to create a specific narrative, and depress enthusiasm. Sounds like something that was churned out at NorquistDogLake, and sent to the media. :hi:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:09 AM
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28. Which is belied by another article that stated Obama gained more volunteers this run than last.
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 05:10 AM by vaberella
It just goes to show you the way the media works. Sadly what people don't get is that the base is not Hollywood, nor DU, nor the left. The base is any American person who's looking for change and seeing the President in a positive light. It makes up a wide spectrum of people.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:03 PM
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32. If they have more then you predict obama will raise more money this time?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:44 PM
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35. He did. In a comparison of this half of the race like in 2008---Obama doubled in funding.
He beat his own never achieved number---which was twice or three times as much (along those lines than the GOP candidate). Have you been reading DU---well maybe not the positive posts on him.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:53 PM
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36. I bet Obama raises less from individual donors this time around. Less excitement.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:31 PM
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37. ROFL...actually you're wrong. Very wrong. You're very misinformed.
If I remember correctly and from the posts below---you'll find out he's gotten more individual donors than last time. You can presume Obama has lost his base and believe all the bobble heads on DU who may be saying the same thing and assuming the polls are right that he's very unpopular...his fundraising ability has actually improved.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x709369
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1490963
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1481132

Enjoy.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:37 PM
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39. Come election day send me the totals and we will see who is correct!
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 03:13 AM
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41. Nothing to say about being "WRONG" thus far? Obama had a way of making liars of...
his critics in '08, and I'm going to predict that the doomsayers will be proven wrong yet again. :hi:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 04:08 AM
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42. Moving your goalposts...alrighty then. n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:05 AM
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43. Here's a new one for you!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 08:11 PM
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44. Not good... not good at all
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 08:32 PM
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45. they want to support real Democrats
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