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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 08:43 AM
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Cartoonist Tom Toles: How's that 'Tax Cuts = Job Creation' working out for ya?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 08:45 AM
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1. While it's easy to stump a Republican
This one really does it. With the tax cuts under Bush, and their extensions, how can there be an unemployment rate of 9%?
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:07 AM
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2. "because of all them job-killing regulations Obama put in!"
That's what they say. Of course, when you ask them to specify said regulations, you get either "Obamacare" or crickets. And since 'Obamacare' hasn't even started yet, they don't have bupkus.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:48 AM
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5. ..which they are never able to substantiate!
It's always the same 'ol, same 'ol with them. Taxes, regulations, government, blah,blah, blah.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:44 AM
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4. Cuz Wall St. is "uncertain," doncha know!
Those poor guys don't know what Obama will spring on them next! They are sick with worry and can't invest...
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 12:33 PM
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9. the UNCERTAINTY ...
that is the line they are falling back to now ...

See, business just is not willing to take any risks because they don't know if taxes will be raised ...

In an intellectually honest word, there is no defense for it. But, in a world where they are not tethered by intellectual honesty, it is all good.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 12:50 PM
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12. I think it's more to do with the brainwashing of the people
just ask idiot Cain who Malaprops a lot.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 03:51 PM
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13. Right. And yet the recession should never have started
at all, due to Bush's tax cuts! But that Commie Marxist in the WH makes it uncertain!
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 04:00 PM
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14. Were I a major stockholder, and you the CEO, you better damned well have a good excuse for spending

... what would otherwise be my dividends near the end of a tax holiday. I would want as much spending as possible delayed until the end of the tax holiday. Because after the tax holiday, a higher percentage of that re-investment will be coming out of Uncle Sam's pocket instead of mine.

A tax holiday for the investor class is just possibly the absolute worst possible thing you can do to an economy. You want to collect dividends while paying lower taxes, so you get to keep more when you cash out. While reinvest when taxes are higher to avoid paying that higher tax.

What is a one word name for a legal tax dodge? Investment!


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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:22 AM
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16. WHISKY, TANGO, FOXTROT
Conversely, a properly set tax rate ... "incentivizes" the expansion of business to allow for writing off business expenses.

This shiite is simple as day, but the counter intuitive BS is the accepted economic wisdom of the "liberal" media ...
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:10 AM
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17. Uncertainty
is one of those Frank Luntz words. It's the answer to a generic question: What frightens you about the future? Since an uncertain future can't be defined, uncertainty fits the Republican argument. It really has no place in a reasonable discussion. If you want a reasonable discussion Republicans are off the table.
For Republicans, certainty means a Constitutional amendment that prevents the government from levying taxes under any circumstances.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:23 AM
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18. Democracy and Uncertainty go hand-in-hand, certainty is part and parcel of Fascism and Communism
Edited on Tue Oct-04-11 09:27 AM by txlibdem
So the GOP are advocating either a Fascist State or Communism. Or maybe both. The SS and the Stazi for the non-wealthy and the Dachas for the top 1%.

Plenty of psycho cops to mace little girls who were complying with the cop's orders. Baloney, you suck - YOU'RE FIRED.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:20 AM
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3. K&R
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 10:36 AM
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6. Thirty years of tax breaks, huge wage gains and earnings increases
for the wealthy vs. thirty years of declining wages and buying power for the 99%.

Recipe for economic disaster, so...

LET'S KEEP DOING MORE OF THE SAME!!!


Republicans are running themselves right off of a cliff, I just hope we can stop them from taking the rest of us with them.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:45 AM
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7. The graph that makes it plain...
Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 11:46 AM by flpoljunkie


For clarity, 0.01% is one one-hundredth of one percent.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 12:30 PM
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8. Jared Bernstein has a great chart on wealth and income concentration in America
Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 12:31 PM by flpoljunkie
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 12:48 PM
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11. I got it, let's tax the people that have...
next to nothing!!

I side with Willy Sutton, at least with his reasoning when it came to money, in this matter.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 12:45 PM
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10. Funny that
your cartoon depicts uncle Sam giving money to the rich.

whoopee...
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 06:41 AM
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15. I wish the extension of the Bush Tax cuts last November was funnier
The extension was only used a further leverage during the Debt Ceiling debate--from one hole to a deeper hole....and now, we are in election mode.
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