Obama Campaign emailed me asking for $125 dollars?? WTF?

[Logical]

I donated $2000 in 2008 and have not donated any money this year and do not plan too donate any to Obama. I will donate it to local candidates or Senators I think earned it.

But I was shocked he asked for that much money and not like $10 or $20. Anyone else getting these large requests?

[CountAllVotes]

1. the campaign has gone greedy already

I haven't heard from them and plan to not donate to them for the 2012 election.

To damn many lies and half-truths and unfulfilled promises.

Now he goes after the critically ill using cannabis.

And now he wants $125.00 from YOU.

Yeah right Mr. O. :mad:

:dem:

[YellowCosmicSun]

13. Nope. They know who donated a lot last time. So that ask them for more.

No conspiracy of greed here, just smart fundraising.

[Jakes Progress]

18. Fundraising yes. Smart no.

If they were smart, they would catch on to the trend.

[1StrongBlackMan]

25. What trend would that be?

It seems that President Obama's fund-raising is doing quite well.

[Jakes Progress]

26. Look up the word trend.

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. Ohhh ...

you got me with that snappy comeback.

I know the meaning of the word ... I just don't understand what trend you are talking about.

Now be a peach and answer my question.

[Jakes Progress]

48. Uh huh.

Never so right as "I just don't understand"

Cool. I was referring to the trend indicated by many of the posts on this thread. Specifically, the trend of long time Democrats and decades long campaign volunteers who have felt chagrined that the arguments they used last time to convince people to vote for Obama have proven to be so much blather. From that comes the trend of those people offering their time and money to local and state candidates whose goals and work they feel they can more readily trust and support.

That trend.

[YellowCosmicSun]

27. You aren't representative of any trend. In actuality, Obama is getting more donations than before.

[Jakes Progress]

29. Read the thread. Look up the word trend.

By your reasoning, Obama doesn't really want to maximize his fundraising.

[XemaSab]

2. He asked me for $4

:shrug:

[Logical]

4. Maybe some calculation based on the donation gave last time?

[XemaSab]

9. Well apparently I'm in a database somewhere

as a cheapwad. :D

[Logical]

10. LOL.

[Glimmer of Hope]

20. He asked me for $3. I gave him $20.

[bluestateguy]

3. Yes I have

The amount I did donate was much smaller than what was requested.

From here on out I am taking a wait and see attitude.

[Logical]

5. There are candidates who deserve it much more in my opinion.

[OhioBlue]

6. yeah - from everyone - it is pretty standard

Sierra Club, Planned Parenthood, Federal, State and local candidates, etc. etc. etc.

I've never donated more than $50 at one time... but they all start out with an ask of an amount much higher than that.

It is nothing to take personal - it is standard fundraising... you are on a list.. most likely b/c you donated in the past and you will be contacted...

[Jakes Progress]

19. When I get "upped" like that, it pisses me off.

They may think it is smart, but I just switch charities. There are lots of places that need the money. I donate a good portion of my time and money so trying the "guilt thing" only makes me mad.

Maybe others go with it. Maybe I'm the only one. But that's how it hits me.

[OhioBlue]

50. I don't really look at it as getting "upped"

I just figure it is someone working a call list and reading from a script or a standard mailing or e-mail. I don't think it is a personal ask.

[Jakes Progress]

51. When you ask me for money, it is personal.

Want to write me a letter telling me what you are doing as a senator or president or whatever? Fine

You want my money, you need to know about me and what I want. Street beggars are more subtle.

It is not just impersonal. It is assuming that the guilt thing will work on me, that I am a sheep. Sure, I know that they do this for a million people, hoping to get ten hits. It is wasteful of my time for their benefit. That is an insult.

[Pirate Smile]

7. They ask for numbers based on what you've given in the past.

I gave a hundred a couple of times in 08 so that is what they started asking for this time.

I've given smaller amounts a couple of times but I've given much earlier then when I started giving last time.

[Ian David]

8. Obama asked me for a ride to a Phish concert. n/t

[Tarheel_Dem]

11. So is this your way of marshalling the troops to boycott donating to Obama?

I've given each month, since fundraising began, and plan to donate much more than last time. Hopefully, others will take your snide comments, and turn them on you. For instance, you've inspired me to double my monthly contribution, and I have a feeling others will be inspired to do the same. Unlike last time, I plan to max out! :hi:

:bounce:

[Hestia]

12. How bully of you. We, too, donated several thousand dollars in 2008 to help get Obama

elected, but have chosen to stay out this year. There - you can now double down on your double contribution.

[YellowCosmicSun]

15. He'll still be reelected. You're not going to teach him a lesson.

You're nobody special.

Someone will step up to fill the hole you leave.

[Logical]

23. Then why are you whining?

[YellowCosmicSun]

28. You're are the one who posted the thread with the express purpose of whining. I asked "why?"

[treestar]

38. Why did you make the OP?

You had to tell someone you weren't giving anything, didn't you?

[Bake]

59. That's a great way to encourage Democrats ...

"You're nobody special."

I guess he doesn't need our VOTES either, then.

My vote, as I've been reminded here frequently, doesn't matter becuase I'm in a red state.

I plan to vote for him anyway, but I won't give a dime to the campaign. I'll support local candidates and try to turn this red state blue.

Bake

[Vanje]

60. Someone will step up to fill the hole you leave."

Sure.
Someone who owns a bank.

[Tarheel_Dem]

41. There are many more folks, who have come of age, in the past 4 years.

They'll pick up your slack. There's nothing even subliminal in the o.p. It's a direct call to DU'ers to withhold funding. That's okay, but I hope not to see the same DU'ers complaining when the campaign makes up the difference elsewhere. :hi:

[Logical]

22. Good for you! And I hope others like you who can keep believing get what you want!

[1StrongBlackMan]

24. Exactly ...

How dare a fund-raiser ask someone that gave in the past to give less than 10% of what they gave last time!

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[BlueIris]

16. Yikes. It does seem excessive.

And desperate.

[Exilednight]

17. I got a letter in the mail asking for $1200. I sent back a note asking for

a president who cares about the poor and working poor.

[Logical]

21. Wow, you must be on the rich people list!

[Exilednight]

30. I am far from rich, but I believe in putting my money where my mouth is. Needless to say I will not

be donating to Obama this time around.

[SidDithers]

31. Shocking. A political campaign asking for donations...nt

Sid

[AtomicKitten]

33. Shocked I tells ya.

[LittleBlue]

32. He gave our money to the banks, let him get his contributions from the banks.

They keep calling my house for donations, and I keep telling them that I won't donate a penny to a Democrat with Republican tendencies like Obama. I donated in 2008 but never again to him.

[AtomicKitten]

34. FTR: It was Bush that enacted TARP and signed the bailouts into law.

link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robbie-gennet/bush--not-obama--enacted_b_678682.html

President Bush- not President Obama- enacted TARP and signed the Bank bailout into law towards the end of his presidency. And yet a large percentage of Americans believe that Obama is responsible, according to the latest Pew survey:

Only a third of Americans (34%) correctly say the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) was enacted by the Bush administration. Nearly half (47%) incorrectly believe TARP was passed under President Obama. Another 19% admit they do not know which president signed the bank bailout into law. Notably, there is no partisan divide on the question. Just 36% of Republicans, 35% of independents and 34% of Democrats know that the government bailout of banks and financial institutions was signed into law by former President Bush. And Democrats (46%) are just as likely as Republicans (50%) to say TARP was passed under Obama.

How are so many people misinformed about the TARP "bailout"? It's not just Fox-watching Republicans (who are often grossly misinformed by the channel) but Democrats as well. Doesn't anybody check their facts anymore? Or do people just choose the facts that support the narrative they want to believe? Bush bailed out the banks and fueled the greatest Recession in generations. Why blame it all on the guy trying to clean up his mess?

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[AtomicKitten]

44. That was part of the implementation of TARP as outlined in your own links.

Stop lying? You're the one that has this embarrassingly wrong. Stop gratuitously misrepresenting data.

Oh and by the way, your answer to the actual question posed in the OP would be and, please, allow me to translate on your behalf: "I'm not giving him a fucking dime."

There you go. You're welcome.

[LittleBlue]

46. The funding was secured from congress by Bush, the actual program was designed and implemented by

Obama.

Obama chose to make most of the money "loans" where the private sector hedge funds could buy at an 12-1 leverage ratio. In other words, the government takes 90% of the risk, the hedge funds get all the profit from the full amount of the 100%, and the government gets none of it, just the principle amount back despite taking all the risk. Geithner designed the PPIP so that private investors would get all the profits and take only 7% of the losses if there were losses. That's fucking criminal. It was actually Geithner who got the Fed in on the scheme so that much of the funding for it was not from TARP, but from the Fed's money printing capacity, aka TALF. Look up TALF, it is not TARP.

So don't lecture me about TARP. This massive hedge fund payout scheme was Geithner's. Your argument is disingenuous considering the PPIP was designed by Geithner, not Bush.

And you must be aware that Bush didn't actually pass TARP, that was congress. And guess who voted for it?

Obama (D-IL), Yea

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00212

Again, do not bullshit me. He was behind it in the senate and he actually implemented it as president in the manner most beneficial to Goldman Sachs and friends. Let him get his election money from the men whom the PPIP most benefited.

[treestar]

40. "He gave our money to the banks"

:rofl:

All by himself, the all powerful President with no one's support at all. And it was not "given" to the banks. It was to keep the economy from imploding. Jesus on a trailer hitch. How do people convince themselves of such idiocy and then post about it under even an anonymous name?

[LittleBlue]

43. Yayaya we heard it before

If Obama hadn't bailed out the hedge funds, we'd be in deeper shit. :rofl:

Go sell that nonsense in Freeperland where they don't have brains to scrutinize it.

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[secondwind]

37. You are in a higher bracket because of your total donations. Don't take offense.

But he DOES need as much as we can send....... the Chamber of Commerce and other corporations are going to be merciless.

[Beacool]

39. I got a request for money too.

I tore it up and threw it in the recycling bin.

:shrug:

[catgirl]

54. You don't say....

Like you donated to Obama last time. LOL

[Beacool]

62. I never said I did.

;)

[frazzled]

45. Why would you open such an email if you didn't intend to donate?

You can't have known how much your suggested donation was if you didn't open and read what you knew would clearly be a campaign donation request. Why haven't you unsubscribed from the list if you don't want to support the candidate?

I get these emails every day from the campaign. I'm usually asked to donate between $20-$35. I ignore them because I decided to sign up for a monthly automatic donation so I don't have to think about it.

Your faux shock is completely insincere: you clearly were looking for something to criticize, scanning these emails for something negative to post. But it's not negative. If you truly gave a $2000 donation last cycle, $125 is not an unreasonable request from them.

[Hippo_Tron]

47. Because people will often give you less than what you ask for

But they will almost never give you more than you ask for. If this had been a phone call and you had turned down their request for $125, they probably would've tried to get $50 and then maybe $20 or $10.

The only reason they would solicit $10-$20 initially is if they're dealing with an audience that hasn't demonstrated a history of giving and/or the means to give much. You've clearly demonstrated both by giving $2000 last cycle.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. So you are whining about a form-letter mailbot? Do you believe that GrovelBot

is real too? Are you shocked when GrovelBot suddenly appears several times a year begging for $ and do you tell GrovelBot to piss off, you are going to donate to some other site and you wonder why "he" personally appeared in your thread and what nerve that was? :crazy:

In other news, I got a damn robocall on my fax line from the NRA today. Liked to make me want to puke and try my best to make sure the ilk that uses the NRA for nefarious RW purposes are not elected to office.

[Cigar11]

52. If you donated $2k before ...

why would they ask you for $10 when you're in their database for $2000?

[Mimosa]

53. We need to elect Democrats in statewide offices and Congress.

Wall Street will make sure Obama is reelected.

[Honeycombe8]

55. I haven't...yet. I've gotten some general Dem Party or W.H. requests. nt

[Wait Wut]

56. They didn't ask me for that much...

...but, I do send what I can. The husband and I are doing much better than we were in '08 so we will be able to send more this campaign.

I'm just really depressed that I can't do any volunteer work this time around.

[WI_DEM]

57. Nope, I've gotten requests for $3 donations

[Lord Helmet]

58. mark the e-mail as spam and get over yourself

[SadPanda]

61. If you don't want to give that is fine, no need to advertise it... Also, your 2008 contribution...

Put you on a list of people who donated over what they are asking for. I don't see the problem.