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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:19 AM
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Poll question: True or Flalse: Do you remain a strong supporter of Obama
Just trying to see if there's a difference between age groups.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:22 AM
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1. Just wondering, why are you breaking this down by age?
n/t.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:26 AM
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2. Just trying to see if there's a difference
I'm thinking that each age group has its own idea of liberalism (depending if they came of age during Kennedy/Johnson, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, or Bush), so may have different opinions of Obama because of that.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:29 AM
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3. your poll mentions nothing about "liberalism" only "supporter" of obama whatever that means nt
Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 02:29 AM by msongs
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:35 AM
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4. It's highly subjective
Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 02:50 AM by Onlooker
But figure just about everyone in DU is fairly liberal especially relative to these times of tea baggers.
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Bloke 32 Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:51 AM
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5. 'Supporter?' Yes.
Alas, I can but root, not vote.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 06:19 PM
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33. Thanks for that. /nt
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:38 AM
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6. by combining "no longer" with "never was" will negate the ability to assess the results.
That is a significant difference, IMO.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 10:12 AM
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9. I agree, but
... had to work with the limitations of the interface. I'm not trying to be scientific here, just getting an overall impression, and I think it may provide that simply by looking at how each age group answers.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:53 AM
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18. In the interest of data accuracy
I was a rabid supporter of The President. His actions since taking office have turned me against Prez. Obama.

I want him to face a number of primary contenders; I want him to answer why every "stimulus" bill he passes has hundreds of millions in tax cuts for the rich and for corporations (including his current "jobs" bill). I want him to answer why he bailed out the banks lightning fast and gave them access to $16 Trillion in almost zero interest and unlimited lines of credit while doing not one single damn thing to help good hard working families keep their homes.

If I am not mistaken, Obama has given far more tax credits to the rich than ANY previous president. I want him to answer why.

Primary Obama!!!
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malthaussen Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:59 AM
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7. Not a Good Poll
What is a "strong supporter?" Is your question "are you gonna vote for this guy," which is the only "support" that matters? I'm sure there are a lot of people, of many different ages, who are far from "strong supporters" but are going to vote for him anyway.

And as already mentioned, "don't support him any more/never have supported him" is two distinct categories in one.

-- Mal
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 10:15 AM
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10. Not a good response ...
Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 10:52 AM by Onlooker
... But, most polls are subjective. For instance, Do you support Obama? What does support mean? Are you a liberal? What does liberal mean? I figure that if each age group interprets the poll with equal inconsistency, then the poll results will mean something. If you want a scientific poll, then DU is not a good place for any poll, since it only polls DU members, the demographics of whom we can only speculate on. Also, I wasn't trying to find out if people are going to vote for him. That wasn't the point. If that's what you're looking for, post your own poll.
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 10:12 AM
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8. I was a Kucinich guy during the primaries
But I then became an Obama supporter when Kucinich dropped out. But I can become a strong Obama supporter if he decides to do the right thing for the people like ending the wars and taking a chain saw to the defense budget.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 10:32 AM
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11. Obama just doesn't have the popular support to win again.
Democrats are largely disillusioned by and disenchanted with him, Repubilcans are taught to hate him. He doesn't have enough popular support. The Democratic party needs to find someone else, and fast, to replace him or else they face another Carter-like loss. Sorry.
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JNinWB Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:34 AM
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14. Don't believe that you speak for all Democrats or Liberals.
Most are still Obama supporters. Just not some vocal DUers, who are working very hard to disillusion Ds so they are too "unenthusiastic" to vote.

You have to be ENTHUSIASTIC to cast your vote against TPers, who will destroy the country. Personally, I will gladly vote FOR Obato his family.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:24 PM
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20. I don't believe you.
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:35 PM
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21. So, only on DU are Democrats upset with Obama?
Out in 'the real world' everybody loves him right?

Serious disconnect
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 06:46 PM
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34. ~80% of liberal Democrats approve of Obama's job performance.
Here on DU it's barely a majority if that.

DU has little to do with the real world, not least because the irrational screamers and the paid disinformers have driven away so many of the rational people.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:46 AM
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39. He polls consistently around 75-80% job approval among Libs/Dems
His personal likability ratings are high.

He polls consistently higher than the GOP when it comes to being trusted to help the average person.

Translation: Things have been bad, but people generally know it's not his fault and believe he's trying to fix it.

DU isn't aligned with the national mood.

A recent poll done in Vermont shows that the President handily beats both Bernie Sanders and Howard Dean in a primary.

Who is going to mount this challenge?
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 10:58 AM
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12. Flalse.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:03 AM
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13. this poll
would only work if everyone who's a member is voting, which is impossible plus I'm sure it doesn't account for a lot of other factors.
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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:41 AM
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15. You should have separated the "no longers" from the "never was"
Many who never supported Obama are now pretending as if they are actually disillusioned supporters rather than people who didn't like Obama to begin with.
They think it gives their arguments more traction.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:47 AM
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17. Here at DU I've seen strong supporters accuse many of us who worked our asses off...
Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 11:50 AM by polichick
...in 2008 for Obama of never really supporting him - which is ridiculous and serves as an excuse to disregard legitimate issues.
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:37 PM
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22. Worse
We have been called racists
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:34 PM
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25. True - funny how the mind works when trying to avoid inconvenient truths.
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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:22 PM
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28. How hard did you fight against Obama before you gave in and supported him?
How easy was it for you to turn your back on him again?
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 11:46 AM
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16. Interesting that 70%
of the respondents are over 50. I wonder what's the average age of DUers. Skinner probably knows. You might get a different breakdown if this were posted in a different forum.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:55 PM
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24. That is interesting. I didn't realize that so many DU posters were that old.
Yet on the other hand from what I can see a large chunk of the OWS protesters are younger people.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:20 PM
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19. 60+, now a tepid supporter.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:36 PM
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26. 70+
And tepid would overstate my enthusiasm.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:48 PM
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23. UNREC - the GOP must get all wet reading this
thanks for another post for repuke pleasure
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:02 PM
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27. Yes, the R's are thrilled to learn lots of Americans want the Prez to move LEFT !!!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:17 AM
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37. yes, that's what the REAL problem is
what REPUKES think :rofl:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 04:45 PM
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30. Not a strong supporter anymore.
I'm back to accepting the lesser of two evils. We have no choice but to vote for President Obama.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 06:00 PM
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31. where is the *this poll is bulshit* button?
Yeah, let's divide age groups up so we can demonize people by age group for not following the herd. :eyes:

THAT'S -so- big tent of y'all....
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 06:12 PM
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32. You're free to start a poll of your own
:)
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 07:22 PM
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35. Do you realize that this is a "yes or no" question, not a "true or false" question?
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:06 AM
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36. Damn, DU has a ton of older folks
I feel like a kid in my late 30's. The majority here are over 50. Wow.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:45 AM
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38. I remain, steadfast and true.
the more shit slung at the man, the more my admiration at how he handles it.
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