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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:17 AM
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Dick head columist trying to down play Elizabath Warren in the Senate race
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 05:18 AM by bigdarryl
Mike Mokrzycki never heard of this idiot Independent my ass he sounds like another rethug http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-mokrzycki/havent-heard-of-warren-wh_b_1002452.html
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r0nr0ntaiwan Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:21 AM
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1. Downplay?
I don't get it. He's simply giving poll results.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:24 AM
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2. he said he doesn't think she can get the people out to vote that she needs to win
sounds like down playing to me
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r0nr0ntaiwan Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:30 AM
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3. but...
Isn't he just basing his opinions on his poll findings? I don't know much about the writer, but this doesn't seem like much of an issue. It could be "downplaying" or it could be a "call to arms."
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:37 AM
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4. I read his analysis twice & cannot find where he says what he thinks. He's analyzing poll results.
What he is pointing out over & over is that a lot of Mass. voters haven't heard of her yet. If anything, the repetition is a hint to her campaign to get her out there & GET her known.

In any case, I think his last line is significant: "And, of course, there's more than a full year of campaigning still to come."
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r0nr0ntaiwan Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:38 AM
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5. Agreed.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:18 AM
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6. Add to that that it is not uncommon for the challenger to be unknown
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 07:21 AM by karynnj
more than a year before the election. Here, the point can even be taken as a positive - she is head to head with Brown, even though many Mass voters don't know her at all.

Consider that her role in the Consumer Bureau, though incredibly important is not one that people not interested in politics or government would have heard of. But, if the emotion behind Occupy Wall Street is looked at, there is no one I can think of better positioned to benefit from it than Warren.

Even if her positions, which I don't know on many issues, place her near the center (or even the right)of the Democratic party, the fact that the only thing that she has a written in stone record on is protecting the consumer. Never a politician, she may never have been influenced by a lobbyist and has no votes she would like to do over.

Not to mention, look at the poll results from Brown's point of view, his numbers have trended consistently down. Now, in several polls, he is at the point where he can not afford to lose any more and, given it is a Presidential year, he likely needs to improve. He also really has to avoid the type of incident he had last week. This means he has to filter what he says through his brain before it comes out of his mouth. It could make him seem less spontaneous or may lead him to avoid the informal radio talk shows, like he does the Sunday talk shows, answering reporters and doing town halls.

I would wonder from the immediate jump to the poor Scott story coupled with easily refuted untrue attacks on Warren whether he can deal with anything over than a media praising him. The more he does this, the less acceptable each response is - whether arguing it is unfair for the League of Women's voters to attack his vote that was for gutting the EPA's ability to regulate greenhouse gases or attacks on his biography.

At this point, articles like this are more reasonable that some comments on DU already designating her a possible 2016 candidate. That could happen, but she has not yet run an election - though she is starting out exceptionally well in the Senate race.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:02 AM
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7. Your last point is well worth remembering.
I don't think we want to rush any more candidates into the presidency before they are ready. I don't want to have to be asked to believe what someone says they'll do, without a track record to see if their lofty promises comport with what they have actually done.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:24 PM
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8. Reading the article. She is going to need Pres Obama and Clinton
going up there to campaign for her. State doesn't know her it appears
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:58 PM
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9. She just started running less than a month ago and there have been no ads
I would bet that the percent of MA who knew Scott Brown this far out might have been far lower.

Not to mention, Obama and Clinton can not win it for her - as witness that Clinton endorsed Martha Coakley in 2009 in the primaries - even doing robo messages for her then and both Clinton and Obama (as well as Kerry, one week after hip surgery) campaigned for her before the election - and she lost.

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