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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:13 AM
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Herman "Koch" Cain admits his silly proposal raises taxes for some

BREAKING: GOP frontrunner Herman Cain admits 9-9-9 raises taxes for some. Republicans shrug

by Jed Lewison

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Normally, I'd say this admission by Herman Cain about his 9-9-9 tax plan would end his little boomlet...

MR. GREGORY: People--there are people who will pay more.

MR. CAIN: That's right. Some people will pay more, but most people would pay less is my argument.

...but since the tax hikes would be on the middle-class and the poor, but not the rich...

DAVID GREGORY: And you think those people are going to rally around tax reform where the wealthy pay less and middle-class and lower income folks pay more? You think that's going to create a grassroots support for this?

HERMAN CAIN: Oh yes, because if they do the math, you do the math on your individual situation, people are going to benefit several other ways other than whether they pay more in taxes

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WaPo: Cain’s longtime ties to controversial Koch brothers’ group key to his surging presidential bid

IOWA CITY, Iowa — Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain has cast himself as the outsider, the pizza magnate with real-world experience who will bring fresh ideas to the nation’s capital. But Cain’s economic ideas, support and organization have close ties to two billionaire brothers who bankroll right-leaning causes through their group Americans for Prosperity.

Cain’s campaign manager and a number of aides have worked for Americans for Prosperity, or AFP, the advocacy group founded with support from billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, which lobbies for lower taxes and less government regulation and spending. Cain credits a businessman who served on an AFP advisory board with helping devise his “9-9-9” plan to rewrite the nation’s tax code. And his years of speaking at AFP events have given the businessman and radio host a network of loyal grassroots fans.

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Think Progress: Why Herman Cain Is The Koch Brothers’ Favorite Presidential Candidate

Just call him Herman "Koch" Cain.



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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:39 AM
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1. I have no words to describe this Cain idiot. nt
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Empowerer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:43 AM
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2. Did you see Scarborough and Halperin do their best to shut down any criticism of Cain's relationship
with the Koch Brothers this morning? Very telling.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:59 AM
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3. "Tax the poor" is gaining traction among their base.
I was watching a Bachmann rally from Hew Hampshire on CSPAN last week. One of her biggest applause lines came from her complaint about how "some workers" don't pay into the system. She pleaded that we make them pay "something, even a dollar".

Only a Republican would see the poverty stricken as a great cash cow while holding the door open and throwing themselves down for use aas a doormat for the wealthy. The word "brainwashed" is such an overused term, we need a new clincal word for Republicanism.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 02:17 PM
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5. there's that element as a reaction to calls for economic justice
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 12:32 PM
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4. Billionaire Investor Warren Buffett Would Pay No Income Tax Under Cain’s 999 Plan
Think Progress: Billionaire Investor Warren Buffett Would Pay No Income Tax Under Cain’s 999 Plan

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett’s push for increasing taxes on the very wealthiest Americans — who, due to the preferential tax treatment of investment income, often pay lower taxes than those in the middle-class — led to the creation of the Obama administration’s “Buffett rule.” The rule is aimed at ensuring that millionaires can’t use special treatment in the tax code to drive their tax rates down below that of their employees.

Republicans have met the Buffett rule with universal derision, calling it “class warfare.” “If it’s not class warfare, it’s highway robbery,” said 2012 GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain. “Pick my pockets, because that’s what he’s doing!” As it turns out, Cain’s much-touted 999 tax plan would basically do the opposite of the Buffett rule, driving Buffett’s already low tax rate down to new depths:

If the “9-9-9″ tax plan promoted by Herman Cain, a leading Republican presidential candidate, had been the law of the land last year, Warren Buffett would very likely have paid no income taxes, according to an analysis prepared for Yahoo News and The Lookout by the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. At most, Buffett would have paid taxes on just 1 percent of his income.

As Yahoo’s Zachary Roth wrote, “if Buffett thinks he’s getting off easy under the current tax system, he should try life under Cain’s plan. Then he’d really be complaining.” Under 999, Buffett’s taxable income would come to $4.9 million of the $62 million he earned last year. After accounting for charitable deductions — which is one of the few tax preferences Cain says he would preserve — “Buffett would have paid no income taxes at all last year under the plan.”

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