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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 01:37 PM
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Dan Savage Challenges Herman Cain To Prove Being Gay Is 'A Choice'... By Performing Oral Sex On Him
Sex Columnist and It Gets Better campaign co-founder Dan Savage has some choice words for Herman Cain.

The presidential hopeful's stance on homosexuality -- that it's a choice -- has drawn outrage from many, but Cain continues to hold his ground. Earlier this week he discussed his views with talk show host Piers Morgan:



Cain: I think it's a sin because of my biblical beliefs and, although people don't agree with me, I happen to think that it is a personal choice.

Morgan: You think people wait — you believe people get to a certain age and say, I want to be homosexual?

Cain: Let me turn it around to you. What does science show? Show me evidence other than opinion and you might cause me to reconsider that...Where is the evidence?

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Cain: ... I respect their right to make that choice. You don't see me bashing them. I respect them to have the right to make that choice. I don't have to agree with it. That's all I'm saying

Morgan: It would be like a gay person saying, Herman, you made a choice to be black.


Cain: You know that's not the case. You know I was born black.

Morgan: Maybe if they say that, they would find that offensive.

Cain: Piers, Piers. This doesn't wash off. I hate to burst your bubble.

Morgan: I don't think being homosexual washes off.


In response to Cain's comments, Savage offered him the chance to prove that homosexuality is in fact a choice, writing on The Stranger's Slog blog:



Dear Herman,

If being gay is a choice, show us the proof. Choose it. Choose to be gay yourself. Show America how that's done, Herman, show us how a man can choose to be gay. Suck my dick, Herman. Name the time and the place and I'll bring my dick and a camera crew and you can suck me off and win the argument.

Very sincerely yours,

Dan Savage


Savage also noted that Cain is insulting straight people as well gay people when he claims that one's sexuality is something that is chosen. "Straight people should get angry when they hear a straight person making this argument," he wrote.

One more reason to love Mr. Savage.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/21/dan-savage-herman-cain-oral-sex-gay_n_1024315.html
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 01:41 PM
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1. I've often wondered why people dont make arguments similar to these...
... so, if you can choose to be gay, show me. Choose it, just once.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 01:42 PM
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2. I Never Thoughrt Of It That Way But It Is Brilliant
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 01:57 PM
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4. I once delivered a sermon entitled "Why I Chose to Be Heterosexual"
to show how moronic the whole lifestyle choice position is.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 03:13 PM
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10. I don't believe it's a choice
But the "show me" is a bad argument. I am a male, and if I ask a straight female to prove it by showing me, it would be the same thing. I also never want to go to China and try dog meat, but it's a choice 100% if the person wants to eat it. If I called it a choice and someone in China called me a liar and said "show me by eating it" and I refused, would he be right? I wouldn't eat it because society made me never want to try it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 08:11 AM
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17. I Think Dan Savage Would Say Herman Cain Would Find No (Male) Attractive
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 01:49 PM
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3. But first
Edited on Fri Oct-21-11 01:50 PM by Turbineguy
on edit: nope, not going there.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 01:57 PM
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5. I'd like Cain to share with us the moment he chose to be heterosexual.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 02:14 PM
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6. Just had to move away from bigoted church ladies at the airport
Edited on Fri Oct-21-11 02:16 PM by Bluenorthwest
They quoted Herman and Obama, used open slur. Both men should be ashamed to inspire such hatred. Too bad Obama is only a fair weather supporter, half measure type. So sick of them all, the phones and bigots.

edited because iPad typing sucks
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 02:34 PM
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7. hilarious. oh lordy. too funny. n/t.
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 02:41 PM
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8. No Dan! Don't do it!
Never, ever, EVER stick your dick in crazy!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 03:45 PM
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11. Plus who knows what's in his mouth...
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 03:08 PM
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9. Terrible analogy
Even if it was a choice, Cain can argue he chose straight and doesn't want to do the oral sex. At least not if he doesn't get the favor returned. :)
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 03:48 PM
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12. +1
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 08:40 PM
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13. What does science show? Really? He is willing to let science decide
whether homosexuality is not a choice? Is he willing to let science prove that the earth is not 6-10,000 years old? That dinosaurs didn't exist?

Obviously he hasn't had much in the way of education regarding science.

Does he not know that it was because of the homosexuality in nature that the Supreme Court struck down sodomy laws?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 08:49 PM
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14. Cain is speaking from a vantage point of heterosexual privilege
He feels entitled to make up a position on the matter, instead of listening to what real, live, flesh and blood LGBT human beings have to say.

It's the very definition of bigotry.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 08:55 PM
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15. No is making that offer to Marcus Bachmann I bet
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 03:29 AM
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16. Well, to be fair, and pardon my language,
Oral sex doesn't have to be pleasurable to the one performing it - i.e., they don't have to achieve orgasm. To truly prove that homosexuality is a choice, Herman Cain should choose to bottom and/or have oral sex performed on him by a man, and achieve orgasm enthusiastically.
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.
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Apologies for the horrible mental picture that evoked, and on further thought, I guess that the experiment is doomed to failure, for where could we find a man willing to do such a thing to Herman Cain? Nowhere. Nor would we find anyone willing to properly record the data from said experiment.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 08:17 AM
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18. Note to Dan...The Koch Brothers did that already with Cain!
:rofl:
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thesquanderer Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:46 AM
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19. But would he enjoy it?
I bet Cain would go down on Savage for, say, a hundred million dollars. It still wouldn't prove that homosexuality was a choice. The *act* may be a choice, but the *desire* is not.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:03 AM
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20. HAHAHAHA!!!!
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:55 AM
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21. Excellent Mr. Savage.
You won't, I hope, mind if I pass on watching that video.

When that is accomplished, Hannity still has not fulfilled his promise to under go water boarding to prove it is not torture.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:30 PM
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22. I'm starting to wonder if Cain is the Phelps-like candidate
Freepers use Phelps as a foil to say "I'm one of the good 'Christians'. I'm not as bad as Phelps". Could they be using Cain to make Romney look good by comparison?
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