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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:32 AM
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I retract my long standing prediction of a Rubio Presidency in 2016.
He's done.

But whoever is Mittens's running mate has a good shot, assuming it's not a throwaway candidate like Mittens himself.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:36 AM
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1. I retract my prediction that he would be the VP candidate on the GOP ticket.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:37 AM
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2. Yep...no remedy for a bold face lie which it is 100% obvious he lied
to pander.

Bah-bye Marco
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:40 AM
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3. Rand Paul has it on lock
n/t
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:07 PM
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8. oh dear gods....
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: we really need a suicide gif for moments like this :scared:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:09 PM
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10. Here you go:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:41 AM
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4. I think that is a good call.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:03 PM
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5. Yes, Rubio's fortunes have surely changed this week
But I'm not sure that it's Mittens who will be doing the pickin'. The country clubber Republicon establishment is working hard on the tea partiers to get on board with Gov. Flip-Flop (R-MA,MI,UT) but I don't think they're going to convince the fundies, who I think are now permanently in the Herman Cain camp.

I see nobody going to Tampa with a first-ballot victory in hand.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:12 PM
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12. Poll: "more respondents expressed aversion to voting for a Mormon than for an African American."
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MjolnirTime Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:13 PM
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14. He stuck his neck out. It's no surprise people are horrified with what they see.
Before this he was basically a mime Ken doll.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 05:52 PM
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22. OK, what did I miss? Why is Rubio suddenly non-viable?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 07:04 PM
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24. He lied about his family's exodus from Cuba

He said that his family bravely fled the dictator Castro and it turns out they left a couple of years before and then flew back for family visits after Castro took power during the time that the US and Cuba still had normal relations.

They become not political refugees but economic migrants who then used oppression to make themselves look better.

For the Tea Party with their birtherism and their anti economic migration and their opposition to lying about being anti communist he managed to hit three big buttons all at the same time.

Some birthers are being reasonably consistent and saying that he doesn't meet the constitutional standard because his parents weren't citizens when he was born.

I think it does eliminate this time around as VP (which may explain why he was being shy about it from the begining) but it will be past history in 4 years.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:26 PM
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27. The lying will be old news in four years
But the potential Constitutional issue won't be.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:05 PM
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6. Obama was never deceptive about his parents.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:06 PM
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7. Only one losing vice-presidential candidate has ever been elected president
and it was 12 years later in FDR's case. As far as I know, no other losing vice-presidential candidate has ever received his party's nomination for president. Why do you think the 2012 election would be different?
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NICO9000 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 03:57 PM
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21. Bob Dole was veep candidate when Ford lost in 76
And prez candidate 20 years later.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:43 PM
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28. You're right. I had forgotten that.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 12:07 PM
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9. I used to be worried about him but hearing his nasty response to Gaddafi's death and then the
fact that his entire narrative is false - plus his credit card problems - I'm not worried any more.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:09 PM
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11. Lol. Strike three.
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MjolnirTime Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:12 PM
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13. you underestimate how much this Country's demographics are shifting.
Millions of Teabaggers will have died by 2016.

Millions of young minorities will have become voting age.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 03:44 PM
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20. That was part of my original reasoning starting the night Rubio was elected.
Just enough Latinos would vote for him to put him over the top, just because he's Latino.

But now, I do not believe he will be selected to run with Mittens. I was 100% sure before.

And without a VP run under his belt, teabaggers doubting his legitimacy, and his boldface lie, I doubt he can even secure the 2016 nomination.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:23 PM
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15. One has to suspend disbelief to take any of these hucksters seriously
The problem is one of them is going to actually be nominated and gets an automatic 40% of the vote for showing up.

I can't impact what they do, so I tend to not devote much energy to their internal choices. I have no doubt it will be a crook, an idiot, or most likely both and just go from there.

There is no least bad or even a most easily bested opponent. Cheering on any of them is wasted energy, the most "moderate" and "sane" are off the meter and the biggest idiot is quite likely to be installed to fuck up the country.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:27 PM
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16. and I thought Canadian politics was confusing
Who in hell are "Rubio" and "Mittens"?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:35 PM
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18. Mittens = Romney; Rubio = Sen. Marc Rubio (RW-FL)
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 05:54 PM
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23. That's "Marco" Rubio.
I'm a Marc and to be in the same category with that lying scumfuck makes my skin crawl.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 07:12 PM
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25. Good point. We should all call them that to make xenophobic birthers twitch and speak in tongues.
Bwahaha!!
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:33 PM
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17. I think in 5 years no one will give a shit. Pukes lie like most of us change underwear and there
are no consequences. He's got the Bush Crime Family endorsement. I still think it's a possibility. The sure way to get rid of him is by exposing his corruption but that didn't even work in 2010.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:37 PM
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19. Whaaa Whaa Fidel was mean to my parents
Whaaaaaaaaaa mean mean dictator

Vote for me whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa and the gop dictators whaaa

hehe
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 08:21 PM
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26. I don't think that's a big deal, actually. It could be that his parents lied to him.
It could also be that people who voted for him didn't vote for him because of that one thing, or primarily that one thing.

Romney has lied plenty, and looks like he's going to be the nominee. Bush lied plenty.

Hey, it'd be a big deal to me, but Republicans tend to think that the evils that one of their own do just aren't that bad. They stick together.

They're likely to think....at least he's not a moderate!
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 09:44 PM
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29. Rubio is not in any danger...
Republicans can get away with LYING...Americans do not hold Republicans to the same standards they hold Democrats to! This is just another sad fact of American politics. IMHO.
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