States can now opt-out of women's reproductive health care--The Democrats agree!!

[maryinthemorn]

Nipping away at Roe--year by year-and the Democrats help in this ugly cause.



http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/schumer-weve-reached-agreement-with-nelson.php#comment-3712988


Schumer: We've Reached Agreement With Nelson

Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE), Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) just told reporters that he and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid shook hands last night at 10:30 p.m. with Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) on an agreement that he would vote for cloture on health care reform, on the basis of the abortion language in the manager's amendment.



''SEC. 1303. SPECIAL RULES.

(a) STATE OPT-OUT OF ABORTION COVERAGE.-- ''(1) IN GENERAL.--A State may elect to prohibit abortion coverage in qualified health plans offered through an Exchange in such State if such State enacts a law to provide for such prohibition. (2) TERMINATION OF OPT OUT.-- A State may repeal a law described in paragraph (1) and provide for the offering of such services through the Exchange.

[stray cat]

1. Women's reproductive health care is more than abortion -

[treestar]

10. Thank you!

Some of these posts are so twisted and strained as if abortion is the only procedure ever needed by any woman, ever!

And with reliable birth control for the last 30 years or more!

[Phx_Dem]

26. No kidding! To think abortions are the center of our reproductive universe is

both bizzare and appalling.

[cali]

2. look, this sucks big time, but your title line is just not factual

it makes it sound as if states can opt out of all reproductive health care.

[dkf]

3. David axelrod says it keeps the status quo

I was soooo pissed when I heard that. He has no clue what they are doing and I guess he doesn't care to know.

[freddie mertz]

4. Axelrod has shown himself to be an unprincipled tool. nt.

[maryinthemorn]

5. states opting out is not the status quo.

[dkf]

6. He really does think it's no big deal

If Obama spins this line I will throw something at the tv.

[maryinthemorn]

12. His only 'big deal' is to get a signing ceremony.

[sandnsea]

16. Of insurance covered abortion, not abortion itself

They'd still have to cover abortion as is defined in Hyde. They could opt out of providing abortion riders to the insurance exchange plans.

[EndElectoral]

7. Essentially, states can circumvent rights of privacy by prohibiting poor women from getting abortion

[fasttense]

8. Does the bill include birth control? n/t

[Mass]

9. Not yet, but you're right. If this is not amended in conference they will.

[sandnsea]

17. How do you figure?

How is opting out of abortion coverage the same thing as opting out of constitutional abortion law?

[Mass]

20. For many women, it is the same thing as they will not be able to afford it.

You know that. (I misread the title, but in effect, for many women, the results is the same).

[sandnsea]

25. We can't afford it now. WE, the ones who can't,

are used to not being able to afford abortions. Or any other kind of health care. This health care bill doesn't make abortion any less available than it is right now.

[HughMoran]

11. Not many Democrats agree

just enough to force this bullshit into the bill :(

[maryinthemorn]

13. Didn't need many-only the important 60.

[cali]

14. want to explain why you lied in your post? please?

[maryinthemorn]

18. No lying-just pointing out the Dems helped to

picked at the edges of Roe. That was my point.

[cali]

19. then you should have said that. you didn't. it was not a truthful statement.

[maryinthemorn]

21. I think you are smart enough to read the post and get the meaning. If not

then I am glad we had this discussion so I could point it out to you.

[cali]

22. lol. yeah, I'm smart enough to know that you're deliberately choosing to

be utterly dishonest. kudos to you for that slimy tactic, sweetie.

[maryinthemorn]

24. I disagree with you. But Happy

Solstice to you.

[HughMoran]

27. It's too common here

At least half of the tripe that is kicked to the top if GP is utterly dishonest

[HughMoran]

15. It only takes 1

[maryinthemorn]

23. Nelson is still at it...........

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/73143-cloture-vote-foreshadows-conference-tussle-over-health-bill
.............
With Nelson’s support, the Senate is expected to pass its version of healthcare reform legislation by Christmas Eve at the latest. The House passed its bill earlier this year. Big differences remain between the two bills, such as over how to handle the contentious issue of abortion, how to pay for the reforms or whether or not to include a government-run insurance plan, known as the “public option.”

Like Conrad, Nelson said in his statement Saturday that any substantial changes to the final healthcare reform bill from the Senate compromise legislation could end up costing the Democrats his vote.

“This cloture vote is based on a full understanding that there will be a limited conference between the Senate and House," Nelson said. “If there are material changes in that conference report different from this bill that adversely affect the agreement, I reserve the right to vote against the next cloture vote.”

[secondwind]

28. those states are already restriction abortion anyway, no big deal