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Playinghardball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:38 AM
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No resistance in ‘cold-blooded’ U.S. raid: Pakistan officials
Source: Reuters via Raw Story

ABBOTTABAD, Pakistan (Reuters) - Osama bin Laden and his comrades offered no resistance when killed by U.S. special forces in a Pakistani town, Pakistani security officials said on Thursday.

U.S. accounts of what happened have changed throughout the week, and initial characterizations of a 40-minute gun battle have given way to officials being quoted as saying only one of the five people who were killed had been armed.

The White House has cited the "fog of war" as a reason for initial misinformation on whether bin Laden -- who was shot in the head -- was armed when U.S. Navy SEALs raided his compound in the Pakistani town of Abbottabad early on Monday.

Two senior Pakistani security officials, citing their investigation, said there was no firefight because the inhabitants never fired back.

More at: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/05/no-resistance-in-cold-blooded-u-s-raid-pakistan-officials/
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:39 AM
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1. I don't care if he was playing checkers with his peeps. nt
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Pigheaded Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:41 AM
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2. I doubt we will ever know the true story
And I personally care.

Pigheaded
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:41 AM
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3. I. Don't. Care.


Later, bin Laden. Enjoy Hell.
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Pigheaded Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:43 AM
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6. The people in the Towers weren't armed either
They still were killed

Pigheaded
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:49 AM
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10. +1
Those people were executed. All they did was show up for work.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:10 AM
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42. Forget armed - they didn't even know they were fighting.
Hell. Some of them were just having breakfast.

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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:50 AM
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13. +1
For realz.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:42 AM
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4. "He's dead, Jim"
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:42 AM
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5. Am i supposed to trust the word of people that didnt know he was there for several years?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:01 AM
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23. +1...nt
Sid
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:46 AM
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7. I see the Pakistanis are still trying to live up to
their reputation which is not to be trusted and being disruptive.

They should focused more on how was Bin Laden able to
live under their nose without them knowing he was there.

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:59 AM
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22. They're not focused on that because it's not true.
They knew.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:48 AM
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8. Sounds like Pakistan is being difficult
If we had captured OBL alive I think they would be making this even worse.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:49 AM
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9. Pakistani officials...the most trusted sources of information...for some people
:rofl:

Everything the US government says is false.

Everything Pakistani officials say is true.

What a world.

:rofl:
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:51 AM
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15. It is hard to trust the American government when they keep changing their story
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:54 AM
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18. Not for me
The initial reports were based on quick versions and somewhat disorganized. and confused That's how life works. As debriefings happened, the reports crystallized. That's how life works.

Of course, I'm not a "critical thinker," as the conspiracy nuts say, which is to say, I understand that not every inconsistency is meaningful, that people make mistakes or speak too soon, that the world is messy, as is representation. So, that makes me not a critical thinker. I'm all heart-broken about it, too.

:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:50 AM
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:50 AM
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12. Pakistan should be glad we didn't take him alive.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:59 AM
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21. lol, good point.
;)
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:19 AM
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26. There is a circle of Americans who are also sleeping easier these days.
So many of the rest of us also show a startling lack of curiosity about what he might have had to say if kept alive after capture.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:40 AM
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32. I imagine his computers still hold plenty of damning information
I'm wondering how many top ISI names are in there.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:45 AM
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37. Truth. nt
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:59 AM
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40. Unfortunately, Intel regarding complicity of Pak with Al Qaeda and Taliban is one good reason
to have captured him.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:51 AM
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14. Don't care of he was butt nekkid on the potty reading Guns & Ammo when they clipped him...
...too bad, so sad...

And the Pakistani officials can get bent as far as I am concerned...I wouldn't believe them if they told me that water was wet...
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:29 AM
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46. Catching him unawares on the shitter is the ideal situation.
In fact, the Navy SEALs, when they train for these sorts of raids, try very hard to arrange them so that they're catching their targets with their pants down.

They make no assumptions, and act as though they're walking into an ambush, and come armed and ready. But hey, if things go right and they succeed in surprising their targets, so much the better.

Bin Laden should have thought of this before he decided to have airplanes crash into buildings, killing 3,000 people. He had it coming!
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:51 AM
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16. The guy declared war. Not checkers. War.
There are no "backsies", takebacks, or timeouts.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:54 AM
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17. I think that somehow, I will manage to go on, even knowing this
ahahahahahaha!
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:57 AM
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19. OBL...
...chose the path that he followed, and he had to know this day was coming sooner or later. I hope the SEALs pissed on his body.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:58 AM
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20. Pakistan's hospitable protectors are upset.
Too bad. So sad.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:01 AM
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:44 AM
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36. You are allowed an opinion.
However the rules of DU clearly mention not using racist language. Please don't use that term. It's offensive.
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browntyphoon Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:12 AM
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25. Bad things happen to evil people.Fuck him.
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callmecoolio Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:21 AM
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27. so screw the rule of law?
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browntyphoon Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:41 AM
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33. Assymetric wars with terrorists have laws?
Pakistan knew he was in their country. They have for years and they've been riding the fence. They either suck it up about the raid or say "fuck you USA" lose their aid packages.



You can't ride the fence forever. If they want to be on Bin Laden's team they will have to realize there are consequences.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:28 AM
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29. Not enough of them to make a real difference in this world.


Execution of sentence after a public trial, with a full public inquest into how and why 9/11 was allowed to happen, would have been justice.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:24 AM
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28. Poor, misunderstood Osama
All he was doing was trying to live a peaceful life. Give me a fucking break.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:34 AM
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30. So the Seals should have waited for them to get their guns?
And then, after patiently waiting for them to arm themselves, begin shooting? Bin Laden declared war on us. These are the rules of war. No one attempted to surrender.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:38 AM
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31. "It was cold-blooded," said the second official...fuck you second official. So was 9/11.
I wonder how many of that motherfucker's relatives went to work on 9/11 and saw a commercial airliner coming through their window? Fuck the Pakistan officials. Then fuck them a second time, because once isn't enough.

"...the inhabitants never fired back..."

...neither did the inhabitants of the Twin Towers or the Pentagon.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:42 AM
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34. I can't believe no one has gone this route yet....
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:43 AM
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35. The only people I trust less than unnamed US officials are unnamed Pakistani officials
Not only are they proven liars, but they also have an axe to grind. Fuck 'em.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:51 AM
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38. 'bout damn time they finally located him. Gee, congratulations.
Or something.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:52 AM
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:04 AM
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41. If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
- David Hackworth
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browntyphoon Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:14 AM
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43. +1
Edited on Thu May-05-11 11:14 AM by browntyphoon
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:23 AM
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44. Payback's a bitch. If you're fighting fair, you're not doing it right.

Bin Laden had it coming.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:26 AM
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45. I hope he was on his knees begging for his life.
Cold blooded asshole got only a fraction of what he deserved.
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browntyphoon Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:31 AM
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48. The mighty "holy warrior" put down like a dog and thrown overboard like trash
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:31 AM
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47. Again, the Unforgiven quote is on the tip of my tongue...
William Munny: Well, he should have armed himself if he wanted to decorate his villa with the corpses of 3,000 Americans!
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ReturnoftheDjedi Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:32 AM
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49. How would they know? They didn't even know we were there til we were gone.
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