Human Filth

[n2doc]

Parents charged after children found locked up, surrounded by filth
By GLENN E. RICE

The Kansas City Star


Paul Jenkins


Bethany J. Jenkins
Clay County authorities today charged a Liberty couple with locking their five children in bedrooms filled with human waste.

Paul E. Jenkins and Bethany J. Jenkins, both 27, were charged with five counts of endangering the welfare of a child.

The two are being held in the Clay County Detention Center after failing to post $100,000 bonds.

According to court records, police responded to the couple’s residence in the 600 block of North Gallatin on Tuesday after receiving a tip from a neighbor that Paul Jenkins was threatening his children with a knife.

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http://www.kansascity.com/2011/05/04/2849426_parents-charged-after-children.html



Poor kids. I hope they find good homes for them.

[quinnox]

1. wow, great parents

The sad thing is they probably came from broken homes themselves. Thats the only reasoning for this I can come up with anyway.

[LynneSin]

2. 27 years old and already with 5 kids

And what really pisses me off is how the tea party claims that it is minorities popping out kids so they can get more money from the government.

[The Midway Rebel]

3. More like ignorance and poverty. nt

[seabeyond]

4. +1. nt

[JuniperLea]

6. The two most deadly killers to our society as a whole...

Ignorance being number one... and poverty being the natural outcome of the ignorance.

[Codeine]

7. Nobody is so dumb or so poor that they don't know it's wrong

to let your children live in their own shit. That's an insult to the poor.

[blondeatlast]

8. +1, although I don't think that was the intention. nt

[The Midway Rebel]

9. According to the facts of the story you are obviously wrong.

These people were so dumb and so poor they DID let their children live in their own shit.

[Codeine]

10. I contend that neither their poverty nor their ignorance were responsible. nt

[The Midway Rebel]

16. OK. Let's hear your argument that it was a "lifestyle choice". nt

[Codeine]

17. Garden variety evil.

Abuse and filth are unrelated to income. Some people are just plain horrible to their children regardless of how much they have in their 401k plan. Being poor does not make you force your children to wallow in their own shit.

[The Midway Rebel]

20. "Being poor does not make you force your children to wallow in their own shit."

Perhaps not, but it sure does facilitate it.

[WatsonT]

31. If the parents and the kids were living in the same horrible conditions

I could buy that either ignorance or poverty was the cause.

But since they were living alright while the kids suffered then clearly there were other options available and they knew better.

[blueamy66]

54. My nieces are each raising their kids without the fathers in the house.

They both work, but do not alot much for extras. Um, their kids have never "wallowed in their own shit".

My mother didn't grow up with much, but she went to school every day in clean clothes.

Being poor is NO EXCUSE for living in the conditions that these kids had to live in.

[louslobbs]

66. Facilitate I can buy, but being one or the other, or both, in poverty or being ignorant, I cannot.

I didn't have ignorant or poor parents, but was abused and beaten viciously as a child. Also, I had heterosexual parents, never knew what gay was, but knew as a 5 year old, that I was created differently. Nothing is written in stone and nothing is black and white, everything we think, and the meaning we put into things, comes from our own experiences, just because we believe it, or think it, doesn't make it a fact.

Lou

[eShirl]

15. It's called being abusive.

[LynneSin]

12. they could be dumb enough but you're right about the poverty

Stupidity can do some crazy ass things.

[eShirl]

14. Thank you; it IS an insult.

[n2doc]

19. exactly.

Been poor people around forever. The vast majority manage to raise their children clean and without trying to knife them. These folks could be multi-millionaires and still vermin.

[LynneSin]

11. Poverty has nothing to do with it.

Being poor doesn't impact your skills as a parent.

[snagglepuss]

18. That can't be said loud enough. It's outrageous that people link the two.

:mad:

[The Midway Rebel]

21. I agree about the skills.

But what about the abilities? Poverty affect those?

[eShirl]

23. If it did, every poor family would be like this.

[The Midway Rebel]

25. So that would be a no?

You are claiming that poverty does NOT affect one's ability to parent? I respectfully disagree.

[WatsonT]

32. Ha, wow

yeah because if you can't afford to give your kid everything then clearly the only other option is to keep them in their own shit.

How much does water cost? Paper towels?

Being clean isn't expensive.

[The Midway Rebel]

46. Oh...so all there is to good parenting is keeping children clean?

Who knew?

[WatsonT]

48. Being a good parent is not totally comprised of being clean

but you can't be a good parent if you don't keep your kid clean. Yeah.

And for these guys it isn't that they are merely inadequate parents.

Look at what you're defending for a moment.

Also look at the millions of people with less who do so much better than these two.

[handmade34]

36. in this case

poverty most likely doesn't impact the outrageous behavior, but... it is absolutely true that poverty impacts a person's parenting...

[handmade34]

37. dupe

[malaise]

42. Bingo

I know really really poor people and neither their surroundings nor the kids are nasty.

[Nye Bevan]

28. YES. Because ALL poor people have shit all over their houses, and kids in urine-soaked clothes (nt)

[The Midway Rebel]

29. Here, you forgot this.

:sarcasm:

[malaise]

40. Sorry I know really really poor people

and they find lots of indigenous ways to keep their surroundings clean.

There is no excuse outside of drugs or mental illness and since the parents appear to be clean this is plain old abuse

[WatsonT]

5. Sterilization seems appropriate here

[BeHereNow]

22. You beat me to it.

I think there are cases which justify mandatory sterilization.
This would be one.

BHN

[The Midway Rebel]

24. NO. Dumbass fascist idea!

Sterilize the poor and ignorant!? Are you two sure you are on the correct website? WTF?

[Codeine]

26. No, sterilize people who lock their kids up in heaped human shit

and then threaten to open their little guts up with a knife.

The poor and ignorant (not the same group, btw, though there is obvious overlap) will be unaffected. The repulsively evil and unredeemable are the folks being discussed here.

I'm disgusted that you keep conflating this horrific act of violent abuse and shocking neglect with poverty. Billions of poor people across the planet raise children in clean and loving homes every day.

[The Midway Rebel]

27. Don't sell me short bro' and you won't disgust yourself.

I never conflated this abusive act with poverty alone. I said poverty AND ignorance. Personally, I do not believe in "evil" only that there there is human weakness and ignorance. But if it makes you happy...sterilize away the worlds evil people.

[WatsonT]

30. Yes, clearly I said sterilize all the poor

And maybe we could harvest their organs as well to help buy me another yacht.

Also we should sterilize those who intentionally misread statements.

[The Midway Rebel]

47. As clearly as I said

all poor people are bad parents.


:sarcasm:

[WatsonT]

49. You do try to conflate poverty with poor parenting, it's odd.

[The Midway Rebel]

50. And you advocate sterilization.

Even odder.

[WatsonT]

51. Of people who would torture kids

do you give an arsonist a box of matches or a drunkard the keys to a car?

We generally like to take away things that people have demonstrated an inability to use responsible to such an extent that it harms others.

Oddly enough we do it for everything but kids. Guess it's not ok to smash up a car, but ruining a kids life? Meh.

[The Midway Rebel]

57. How nice.

Who else among our societies mentally deficient, dysfunctional or diseased do you advocate that we sterilize?

[WatsonT]

71. Just those

just the proven child abusers.

Why do you support giving children to such people?

Is it wrong for adoption agencies to remove known child abusers from their lists of acceptable parents?

According to me: no.

According to you: equivalent to the holocaust.

[louslobbs]

59. Let's just sterilize all Republicans and that should solve this problem once and for all.

Lou

[The Midway Rebel]

65. You may be on to something Lou.

Republicans vote to cut funding for stuff like Planned Parent Hood and CPS, WIC and other social services. Background research on this story that happened a scant 30 miles from my back door tells me that these parents were reported to CPS not once, not twice but SEVERAL times by the teachers at the school the older children attended. So, not only were the parents a total failure, so was the social safety net such as, parenting classes, close supervision from CPS, mental health/drug/sex counseling, birth control etc. that might have done something to ameliorate the situation before it came to such tragic conclusion.

[louslobbs]

67. I believe I am, especially after reading what you wrote. Thanks for commenting

Lou

[Aerows]

13. Humans are the only creatures

that will live among their own waste, lie down upon it, and dwell in it. Every other creature knows not to.

[WatsonT]

33. Pigs

[handmade34]

35. I have raised pigs...

they WILL NOT wallow in their waste... pigs like many penned animals will choose a corner to defecate in and that is all that area is used for...

you do a great disservice to pigs by calling these parents by that name

[stuntcat]

38. yes

For years I called selfish people pigs but I stopped. I'll never disrespect any animal by calling a terrible person their name, even maggots are better than some.. IMHO! :)

I've heard so much about how smart and interesting pigs are. I can't wait to live somewhere where I can have some to keep or visit.

(edit, & TY for sticking up for them!!)

[BOG PERSON]

41. agreed

despite their reputation, pigs are clever and cleanly animals.

[WatsonT]

43. Relax francis

I wasn't calling these parents pigs. They're humans, and despicable ones at that.

I wouldn't dare besmirch the honor of your porcine friends.

[handmade34]

45. aw thanks

[louslobbs]

60. A pig would make a better parent than either of these two abusive chuckle heads

Lou

[BobbyBoring]

55. My dog rolls in shit

Her only bad habit and she knows better

[TwilightGardener]

34. Awful. It's a shame that they won't get the opportunity to experience

being locked in a cell for years caked with their own shit and piss...cruel and unusual punishment and all that.

[BOG PERSON]

39. blame patriarchy! (also blame the parents)

biological females may have gained equal status in patriarchal american society but children are still commonly viewed as their parents' personal property.

[WatsonT]

44. Um . . . what?

Did that make any sort of sense?

[Urban Prairie]

52. Put their children in that basement room at 8 pm and would not let them out

until the next morning?

Apparently the parents did not want their children "interfering" with whatever they liked/wanted to do at night. Drugs? Booze? both?

Swept their parental responsibilities under the proverbial rug, but it inevitably caught up to them.

It is bad enough when ONE parent refuses to share in or shirks his or her part in their childrens' upbringing, dumping all of it upon their perhaps also or sole job holding/working spouse, but obviously it is much worse when both or a one parent household, can not/will not try to provide a reasonably clean and safe environment for their child or children to live in. It is one thing to lack the money to provide adequate and decent sleeping/playing/dining/schoolwork arrangements and space, perhaps being very cramped or is by limitations and necessity being shared by perhaps too many children, but in this situation, it is likely borne out from pure laziness, indifference, selfishness, addictions, and/or sloth. 5 young children gradually became too overwhelming, and perhaps just as a result of slacking off, interruptions, and/or falling behind in home maintenance and cleaning up, it obviously became easier and easier to ignore/tolerate the filth or if their overnight out-of-sight, out-of-mind "storage" room in the basement was cleaned/organized at all, it was performed very infrequently and half-assedly if that.

[BobbyBoring]

56. Drugs? Booze? both?

Sex would be my guess

[louslobbs]

61. Also, these children have a good chance of becoming angry, abusive adults themselves, foisted upon

the rest of us to deal with if they don't get some good counseling and foster parents. The damage from this abuse of children, spreads into our society if the abused child is not helped, by what is clearly a broken system. I wish us all good luck.
Lou

[Shagbark Hickory]

53. Yet these people will not end up on any predators list or be forced to live under a bridge.

nt

[louslobbs]

58. Let's "Reserve" Marriage for these types, along with having the custody of children. My partner and

I (together 18 years), could give more love, safety and stability to these kids than the majority of (married and or living together) heterosexual couples could ever offer, and they want to prevent us from adopting children. Sure, let these pigs have all the children they want to abuse, but accuse gay people of not being fit to raise children. What a warped country this is. The other day, I posted an op about a white power racist pig "dad" here in California, who so terrorized his little boy, that the 10 year old kid took one of his "fathers" guns and shot him dead. Take note parents who abuse their children and who have firearms in the house, children who are abused and pushed too far, can and will kill to protect themselves. Let's reserve all of the rights and protections in this country, for this "lovely" couple. Sick fuckers.
Lou

[louslobbs]

62. http:// www.youtube.com /watch?v=z5qsJPlH978 hit link below to watch and listen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5qsJPlH978

This song I found, is how a lot of kids grew up, including me. Very haunting melody.

Lou

[The Midway Rebel]

63. For Lou

:hug:

[louslobbs]

68. Wow! My first hug on DU Thanks TMR, right back at you my friend. All the best to you.

Lou

[The Midway Rebel]

69. back at ya' bro'

My childhood too was, at times...less than sweet and fat.

[louslobbs]

70. I hear ya, that's why when I found that song "Daddy I Love You" it really hit home. I contacted

the guys who wrote it, and they sent me an original copy, signed. I think it would make a good country song and they are shopping it around Nashville to get it recorded, I hope they succeed.
Lou

[deutsey]

64. "She later told investigators she did not know why police had came to her home."

:eyes: