Gov. Chris Christie unsure about teaching creationism in schools

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While charming a town hall audience in Manalapan Wednesday, Gov. Chris Christie called on a woman who had an unusual question for him. She asked what he thought about creationism being taught in schools along with evolution.

The governor paused and took a sip of water, quipping, “That’s a new one.”
It was also a tricky one for the governor of a moderate state whose conservative credentials help make him a GOP star.

“I probably have little business getting myself involved in these kinds of questions,” Christie said, adding that local school boards “should be making those decisions about what curriculum is being taught in your schools.”

“I think it’s really a dangerous area for a governor who stands up from the top of the state to say you should teach this, you shouldn’t teach that,” Christie said.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_auditor/2011/05/gov_chris_christie_unsure_abou.html

[joeybee12]

1. What a weasel...he's got it down to an art form...nt

[DainBramaged]

3. "local school boards “should be making those decisions about what curriculum is being taught in your

schools.”


Fucking scumbag, throwing that out there...



From the article


“No, the state would not permit the teaching of creationism in place of evolution,” said Department of Education spokesman Alan Guenther. “Could teachers discuss creationism either in science or history classes? Of course. As long as they also teach the required material.”

[Johonny]

2. He can be "frank" when it comes to bashing poor people

but teaching myth as science in schools he doesn't want to be frank about.

[Ship of Fools]

4. gee, guv

"dangerous area...from the top of state to say you should teach this, you shouldn't teach that ..." Gee, you knuckle-dragging airbag, it sounds like you might be on to something there.

[tridim]

5. Yet Tweety still thinks that blob is "the real deal".

If you don't know the differnce between myth and science, you're simply not smart enough to run a country.

[emulatorloo]

6. He knows the difference, he's just pandering.

[tridim]

8. If that's the case, it's even more of a disqualifier

If you can't tell, I'm really pissed that Christie is getting praise and/or respect from anyone.

He has the quintessential greasy salesman type personality. I've met many people like him in my life. Most of them come across as nice guys when you first meet them (yes, they're all male), but under the surface they are all rock-stupid backstabbers.

[nonperson]

7. Here's another story out today that should be a fair warning about Christie and Charter Schools

Read this and multiply it by hundreds of Charter Schools Christie is backing to destroy public education in New Jersey by taking PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS AND FUNNELING THEM INTO THE HANDS OF HIS CRONIES AND ACCOMPLICES:

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2011/05/capital_preparatory_under_inve.html

Trenton charter high school is under State Police investigation over financial problems

Published: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 8:45 AM Updated: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 9:02 AM

By Carmen Cusido/The Times The Times, Trenton

"TRENTON — Capital Preparatory Charter High School has surrendered its charter and is under investigation for financial mismanagement and a range of violations by the New Jersey State Police, a state Department of Education spokesman said yesterday.

The Grand Street school had been placed on two consecutive 90-day probationary periods before it gave up its charter May 2. It will close at the end of the school year. Because Capital Prep chose to surrender its charter rather than have it revoked, it cannot appeal, DOE spokesman Alan Guenther said.

In addition to the financial problems, visits to the 329-student school by DOE staff “revealed a weak educational program, lacking in rigor and not meeting the goals set forth in the school’s charter,” Guenther said.

The school is separate from Trenton Community Charter School, which was placed on probation in March and ordered to submit a plan for corrective action. The school repeatedly failed to make Adequate Yearly Progress, a measurement of academic performance under federal testing standards."

THIS is Chris Christie's "VISION" of education for our children. And it isn't the only example of Charter School failure in New Jersey. The Create Charter School in Jersey City was closed. Others are failing and in doing so failing our children while politically connected friends of Chris Christie get state funds that should be going to our formerly nationally top rated public schools.

[nonperson]

9. I found the story on the Create Charter School failure

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2010/03/schundler_create_charter_schoo.html

Schundler: CREATE Charter School in Jersey City will be closed June 30

Published: Tuesday, March 02, 2010, 2:33 PM Updated: Tuesday, March 02, 2010, 4:24 PM

By Ken Thorbourne/The Jersey Journal The Jersey Journal

"Acting state education commissioner and former Jersey City mayor Bret Schundler has confirmed the state is not renewing the charter for CREATE Charter School in Jersey City and the school will cease operations by June 30.

"The school is run by former Jersey City Councilman Steve Lipski, who didn't run for re-election last year following an incident in November 2008 in which he urinated on concert-goers at a Grateful Dead Tribute Band concert in Washington, DC."

"The state Department of Education sent school officials a letter Monday. The letter gives the school's failure to meet goals outlined in its charter; not reporting incidences of violence and low scores on state tests as reasons for not renewing the charter.

According to the letter, only 4.8 percent of 12th graders were proficient in Language Arts and just 2.7 percent were proficient in math."

THIS is what Chris Christie and his cronies call saving education. DISGUSTING.

[Fuzz]

10. He knows we in NJ wouldn't stand for it, but if he makes that stand he loses

his national appeal.

So much for being a straight talking kind of guy, eh?

[nonperson]

11. Christie is a fraud and always has been

His criminal brother bankrolled his way into the U.S. Attorney's office and the governor's mansion. It's all public record.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/nyregion/06todd.html

New Jersey Governor’s Brother: Asset and a Risk

"When Christopher Christie went on to Seton Hall Law School, Todd Christie followed their father’s path to the financial world, where his high energy and salesman’s bravado allowed him to flourish quickly at the Wall Street trade specialist firm Spear, Leeds & Kellogg. He rose to become chief executive, and when Goldman Sachs bought the company in 2000 for more than $6 billion, Todd Christie’s piece of the deal amounted to about $60 million.

By 2003, however, Spear, Leeds was under investigation on suspicion of cheating customers to benefit the firm. Todd Christie resigned in March 2003, although he says that his departure was not related to the inquiry and that he did not find out until months later that he was among the traders being investigated. When the United States attorney in Manhattan, David N. Kelley, secured criminal indictments against 15 traders at the firm in 2005, Todd Christie was spared, and faced only civil fraud charges along with four other traders.

The company ultimately settled the case, repaying more than $16 million to investors, without admitting or denying wrongdoing. During the campaign, Christopher Christie stated that his brother had done “absolutely nothing wrong,” and in an interview this week Todd Christie said he had been “completely exonerated.” Two of the indicted traders pleaded guilty; the 13 others were ultimately cleared of criminal charges.

The Securities and Exchange Administration settlement Todd Christie signed, dated Oct. 15, 2008, maintains that he carried out hundreds of trades that brought the firm thousands of dollars in profits at its customers’ expense, and had violated stock exchange rules."


The U.S. Attorney for Manhattan that let Todd Christie off the hook was David Kelley. The same David Kelley Christie awarded a no bid contract worth tens of millions of dollars to (along with another one for Christie's former boss John Ashcroft) from a case U.S. Attorney for NJ Christie won against medical device manufacturers.



Another interesting link:

http://www.politickernj.com/humorme/28755/chris-christies-closet

Chris Christie's Closet

Much more is laid out here in an excellent article from BlueJersey that I've posted previously:

http://www.bluejersey.com/diary/17194/christie-has-lost-the-benefit-of-the-doubt

Chris Christie has lost the benefit of the doubt


Read this stuff and ask yourself how New Jersey could elect such a criminal and then ask yourself how ANYONE could EVER consider this incompetent, corrupt disgrace for even higher office?

[Fuzz]

17. Thanks for those links.

[nonperson]

18. You're very welcome and please feel free to share them

:hi:

[JDPriestly]

12. Teaching creationism will push America further behind the rest

of the world. It is a meaningless, useless theory in terms of scientific studies. Covering it in classrooms will confuse children.

[bullwinkle428]

13. "ZOMG...should I please the baggers, or people with at least half a brain?"

:rofl:

[Laxman]

14. Keep Him In The Spotlight!

The more scrutiny this ball of lard comes under the less viable he becomes. On one hand he's delusional regarding his national ambitions but on the other hand, other empty-headed vacuous candidates like Palin, Huckabee and Bachmann have survived and thrived. The stuff with his brother is just the tip of the iceberg:

-His sweetheart loan made to one of his female assistant US Attorneys
-the fact that he was a mediocre insurance defense attorney who managed to be appointed US Attorney by raising money from his brother's friends for W. (He was a Bush Ranger) He had NO experience in criminal law prior to his appointment.
-questionable ethical practices in pursuing political prosecutions as US Attorney
-Sued by his republican primary opponents for libel and slander during his bid for election to the Morris County Freeholder Board. (settled with payment to the plaintiffs)

He's a fake tough guy who grew up in an affluent suburb but pretends to be from Newark. He has no policy experience and no sense of governing policy, just a lot of hot air republican talking points. The man is scum. The more he talks, the more he exposes his weakness. Just keep the light on this roach and eventually he will have to scurry back under the kitchen cabinets where he belongs.

[Initech]

15. Creationism should not be taught in public schools period. End of debate.

[gratuitous]

16. What a weasel word response

But unsurprisingly, Gov. Christie seems to want to have his cake and eat it, too.