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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:28 PM
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The Huge Tea Party Lie That No One Has Noticed
Rachel showed something last night that reminded me of what I have been seeing in my state (Maine). I noticed by Feb. that the Tea Party could only get a handful of people to show up at "rallies" here; the head of the Heritage Foundation who makes four times the median salary of any Mainer has resigned and left the state; the legislature is not touching key Tea Party bills; special Senate election won by Dem 68-32, etc. Well, Rachel showed the big rally the Gov. of S.C. was holding for them and there were only two people in lawn chairs in the picture (she said actually there were about 25 people there--how many were reporters?). Anyway, the Repukes (who say they are so scared of these people are either being faked out or they are using them to hide behind. I suspect they lost all the elderly with the Medicare issue (remember the "Don't Touch My Medicare" signs???) Bottom line: these assholes are fast becoming a figment of imagination sold to us by the media.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:31 PM
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1. I think they always have been an illusion
The reason for the high turnout in the beginning was solely because the Teabaggers fanned the flames of racism
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 02:07 PM
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17. The fear of gun control was also a contributing factor in the beginning.
Racism, guns, hating gays and mosques, BBQ, and Jesus are their favorite things.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:09 PM
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20. Yep - even though Obama has made no attempts at gun control
And he's a Chicago Democrat and they like gun control usually
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:33 PM
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2. They were never more than tools
and the tools don't work anymore. History will likely not be kind to the Tea Party.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:41 PM
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13. That's what they get for not buying their tools at Sears.
Guaranteed for life, you know. :silly:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:35 PM
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3. The media have been a bane in our country for many years.
It's one thing to endorse a belief by highlighting facts; it's quite another to lie and deceive.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:35 PM
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4. My estimation is that the true tea party is Dick Armey and the money
he can get on a finger snap and the way his bullshit machine can get folks riled up over nothing. Can't sustain this on the lies, but can whip up a tornado on demand.

Will the baggers feel used? Sure! Will they do it again? At the drop of a lie.
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:36 PM
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5. I assumed you meant the lies about deficit reduction to protect our children
If these morans truly cared about our children, they would be pushing for the toughest environmental regulations anywhere and "Cap and Trade" would have passed by now. There is no better way to protect and ensure the well-being of our children by protecting the planet from the destruction we have inflict upon it.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:24 PM
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12. I for 1 am glad "Cap and Trade" has been tossed out
A more easily manipulated program has not been envisioned

I had serious doubts and still do on it's ability to actually lower World Wide Carbon emissions. 2nd - and the fact Wall St was all for it and already salivating at the possible "Trading Possibilities" told me this is 1 plan I want no part of.

Make no mistake - we need carbon reductions. But "Cap and Trade" and the Kyoto Treaty by NO means were ever intended to reduce carbon emissions. It simply was a means to allow major corporations to once again fleece the working class
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:10 PM
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21. Cap and Trade was a perfectly fine policy
It needed some standard of measurement and enforcement however
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:49 AM
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23. You on Drugs ? - They could move country to country freely emitting CO2
Edited on Sun May-22-11 11:50 AM by FreakinDJ
as they pleased.

The fact China was already making nice and getting cozy with 3rd World African countries should have been a clue for you. Try actually reading the Kyoto treaty and tell me you can not see the HUGE gaping holes in it's enforcement.

Even those officials who endorsed it realized it could and WOULD be easily manipulated and fore saw continued increased carbon emissions through 2075. All the while the American and a select few Western European countries would be handing over $Trillions of dollars to corrupt 3rd World Country leaders and Wall St Traders.

Great Plan
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:07 PM
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24. "You on Drugs?" Is that somehow supposed to support your argument in some way?
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:15 PM
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27. Do you have any rebuttal at all ??
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:11 PM
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26. It actually isn't
Edited on Sun May-22-11 12:37 PM by Aerows
because it would include loopholes for those who already operate outside environmental policy and abuse it, while destroying smaller competitors. It's not fair, because it doesn't function to protect from the bottom up - it protects the top who get loopholes, and penalizes the bottom who must obey to stay in business.

It had good intentions, but ultimately, it's another way to give huge corporations more leniency over small business.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:08 PM
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25. I've never been fond of cap and trade
I just seems to me to be a tool to let monopolies trade with different currency, while allowing themselves massive loopholes. I've never seen a sane implementation that didn't include massive write-offs for the big players, and harsh penalties for the small players.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:37 PM
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6. Well...
As long as republicans are "scared" of them, and will bend over backwards to do what they want, which makes the whole party look like a bunch of loonies, I say more power to them! In the long run they will only make it harder for republicans to win next year! :evilgrin:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:38 PM
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7. But the media will always prop it up on its spindly legs
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:39 PM
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8. 'They' succeeded as far as a repug House majority, and some States,
but I suspect it will be short-lived. We do, however, have to endure the current sessions.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:45 PM
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9. My next door neighbor was a TeaBager who voted for Obama,
Before the inner circle of lunatics took the Tea Party to weird heights.

He used to be admonishing me about how much I didn't know about things - that I needed to understand certain issues and not believe the news (Not that I believe the news.)

Now he says that all of politics is a hoax and a waste of time -that it is controlled by those at the top and offers no way for any of us to change the paradigm.

I imagine that when the Tea Party started going after the pension monies that he and his wife live on, that was what made the big difference.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:19 PM
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10. The death of it is under reported
just as much as its birth was over sensationalized. There are a few diehards left, largely wondering why the room is suddenly so empty.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:23 PM
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11. You can create a fake movement...but you can't make it actually move.
Edited on Sat May-21-11 01:24 PM by Atman
Anyone with a few million dollars can fund a bunch of loons. But once the loons find out they're being played for fools -- or loons -- the enthusiasm wanes. If there was a REAL "movement," the Tea Baggers would have grown organically. But when you fake the whole freakin' thing, SURPRISE...people sooner or later realize they've been duped. Even stupid Tea Baggers.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:46 PM
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14. The TeaBaggers (R) are the Potemkin Political Party
brought to you by RepubliCorp Mass Media, Inc.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:55 PM
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15. So I wonder how many were paid shills bussed around
by Freedom Works and Heritage that aren't being paid anymore? One such "rally" here in WI was a real joke...most of the people that "attended" the "rally" got on the bus and on to the next one...so just how many locals were really there?
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:28 PM
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28. Many if not most
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 02:04 PM
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16. the president of the chicago tea party was beaten in his
own precinct. jan schakowsky beat his ass.
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 02:16 PM
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18. The Tea Party is a Facade for the Money Behind The Cons, IMHO
and it does not need a large number of flowerer's---all "it" needs is an illusion to keep the "less advanced thinker" riled up enough to vote their way....As long as all of "them" sitting on the sidelines don't Look they will believe what they are told about "crowds" and who would know the difference with the way MSM "messages the tripe"?

If it weren't for Rachel, would we notice?
The lawmakers that use the TP brand" as an excuse to push their bs agendas forward simply verify for All that they are the corporate shills we have long believed they are.

Maybe that's why they are fucking with the election laws the way they are? Even their Own are dropping away?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 03:11 PM
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19. K & R !!!
:kick:
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:29 PM
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22. And in Wisconsin
the pro-union demonstrators have outnumbered the teabaggers by vast, vast numbers.
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