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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:59 AM
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OOOOOooooohhhhh.... Scotland yard just got nailed for covering up Rupert Murdoch's phone hacking...
Not a surprise since the lead investigator who covered up the hacking took a well-paid job for Murdoch after he closed the case.

The police repeatedly told people that their phones had not been hacked...including the Deputy Prime Minister. Ends up he was hacked 46 times and that Murdoch's minions had the phone numbers of anyone leaving messages on his phone (so they too could then be hacked).

Why is this important? Because it allowed the story to die while the conservative party (armed with hacked info, most likely) was able to sweep itself into power. Now that the police have been found to be lying, now that Rebecca Brooks (Bigwig of Murdoch's) accidently admitted on the floor of parliament that they were paying police for stories (illegal) we are seeing the pattern. Police taking money from Murdoch, police covering up the hacking scandal for Murdoch, police retiring and being hired by murdoch.

Watch and see peeps! This story just well might bring down the right wing government of England and do a lot of damage to their American counterparts!!!

http://m.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/may/23/phone-hacking-lord-prescott?cat=media&type=article
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:04 AM
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1. I'd like to know what they are up to in the USA
With all that going on in Europe there is definitely smoke.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:19 AM
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3. I have no doubt that these things are going on a wide basis in the U.S.
But how do we uncover it when there are layers of Criminal Justice agencies that are involved at some level?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:26 AM
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6. I'm beginning to think the whole wiretapping-without-a-warrant thing goes beyond "national security"
Sure, Murdock wants to eavesdrop on his competition, but I'm beginning to wonder if we are seeing unchecked wiretapping as part of an effort to gain "intelligence" for a variety of "concerns."

Perhaps as a way to "get the goods" on political opposition.

Also, to gain information on competitors in business and industry. How difficult would it be as a CEO to contact his stooge in one of the "national security agencies" and request inside information on another corporation?

Or maybe as a way to keep tabs on any possible investigation by a law enforcement agency into the CEO's own malfeasance...

I don't think it's limited to strictly "terrorists..."
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:06 AM
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12. beginning? suckerman openly brags about it re facebook.
Edited on Tue May-24-11 01:07 AM by Hannah Bell
of course all the tech corps are collecting & selling the information they get from people for free.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 08:51 PM
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18. Limited to terrorists? There are days when I wonder if they've
spent any time actually even trying to listen to terrorists.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:19 AM
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2. At risk of sounding pessimistic...
I'm not confident that anything significant will come of this, either there or here.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:21 AM
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4. Murdoch has hit the important people.
If nothing comes of it, they will make a movie out of it and embarrass the political and justice agencies
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:28 AM
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7. The Righties just do not seem to be very affected by embarrasment.
Sure, a scandal will bring down one or two, but like weeds, they just keep growing back with deeper and deeper roots. We had 8 years of this bullshit here, with PLENTY of evidence to not only embarrass them, but to incarcerate them, and nothing came of it.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 11:31 AM
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8. Yep - I've been disappointed too many times in the last couple decades to expect anything to happen
It would be nice, but I ain't holding my breath.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 11:13 PM
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9. It could break up his empire..even selling one or two papers or news stations
releases people from his grasp. that's how I look at it!
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:23 AM
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5. I would bet a chunk of change that they've been hacking
here for years. Is any of this making our tv "news?" I don't watch anymore.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 08:19 PM
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13. not a single word on the tv here
just a bit in the NYTimes.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 12:57 AM
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10. This is good news
Each step of the way the Murdoch media have tried their hardest to minimize this (and Murdoch's minions to pay people off to make it go away).
I'm sure they thought they could make it all disappear.
Instead, it goes to court.

Looking forward to hearing the testimony.

K&R
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:13 AM
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20. It keeps growing too. More and more people are becoming aware
that their phones were hacked, that Murdoch paid for it and that he paid the police off... we can hope for justice.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 08:32 PM
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21. It will be very interesting to watch this proceed
My bet is anything and everything will be done to protect Murdoch's son from being implicated.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:05 AM
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11. the capitalists are fighting each other. that's why we're in the middle of a ten year world
war, that's why the "terror", that's why murdoch's getting knifed, that's why a lot of stuff.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 08:23 PM
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14. Good thing we don't have Rupert Murdoch over here, doing that hacking in the USA.
Oh. Wait a minute. Rupert Murdoch IS here.

And it gets worse. Here, the NSA/CIA establishment is old-line BFEE conservative repuklicans.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 08:29 PM
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16. The difference Octafish is that in the U.K. they call it 'phone hacking'
Edited on Tue May-24-11 08:30 PM by Rex
over here in the States...they called it 'illegal wiretapping' and WILL get away with it, because America is way to corrupt to 'say no' to Rupert.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 08:50 PM
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17. James Bamford quoted Sen. Frank Church's warning, Rex.
JAMES BAMFORD: The NSA's job is electronic eavesdropping, spying electronically, bugging telephones, listening to cell phones, reading e-mails. It's the big ear. It's been called America's big ear for many years. And it's also a very dangerous agency if the agency is turned inward on the American public.

Sen. Frank Church in the mid '70s studied NSA and became very worried about it. He said the capability of NSA at any time, if it's turned around on the American people, no American would have any privacy left. There would be no place to hide. So it's an agency that has a lot of power and it's supposed to be directed externally at our adversaries in other countries around the world.

SOURCE: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/terrorism/july-dec05/nsa_12-20.html

And many people wonder why whistleblowers are getting popped while Poppy and his crew get away with every treason.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 08:58 PM
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19. Poppy owns the phone records of his political opponents
Edited on Tue May-24-11 08:59 PM by Rex
that is how GWB and Cheney got away with whatever they wanted...who knows what dirt they have and will use in the future through illegal phone-tapping of the Rich and Famous. That should be illegal (and we are told it is...but did the practice ever stop?), I'm sure we will never hear about it here in America...that would go against our govts motto.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 08:28 PM
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15. And down we go through the rabbit hole...
this is EXACTLY what I've been saying over the GWB years...sadly America will keep this all hush hush, unlike our more understanding counterparts in the U.K. We will find that here tenfold...well we would if Foxnews didn't own the M$M. Mix in AT&T and you get an unprecedented 'illegal wiretapping' service that takes on a whole new meaning now in America.

Yes, they got you too on tape, 'better watch what you say' - guess that is what they meant.

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