PETA still wants billboard comparing microwaved baby to cooking animals

[The Straight Story]

PETA still wants billboard comparing microwaved baby to cooking animals

DAYTON — Though one billboard company has rejected a controversial idea from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, the group is still trying to get another company to put it up.

PETA spokeswoman Ashley Gonzalez confirmed that the group was still working on erecting a billboard that compares the China Arnold murder case to the cooking of animals.

Arnold, 31, was convicted May 13 of the aggravated murder of her daughter, 28-day-old Paris Talley, who died in a microwave oven in 2005.

PETA’s announcement last week drew outrage from the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which said the ad compared black people to animals.


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[GSLevel9]

1. that's a REACH. nt

[FLPanhandle]

2. Well, they made the news again.

So I guess it's "mission accomplished" for them.

They are just following anti-abortionist tactic of putting up disgusting billboards. It's all about making the news and boosting money donations.

[KamaAina]

10. Even the ANTI'S wouldn't go as far as this.

:puke:

[Matt_in_STL]

19. Really?

They wouldn't put up a billboard depicting an actual aborted fetus or dead baby? You are completely wrong there.

[KamaAina]

21. Oh, I've seen what we used to call "fetal pornography", all right

but it looks like PETA has outdone even Operation Oppress-You with this one.

[Matt_in_STL]

22. I don't think that is true at all

I am not standing behind PETA on this one as I too consider it fairly horrifying. However, while PETA is using a graphic depiction, anti-abortion activists have been known to use actual photos of aborted fetuses on billboards and roaming vehicles. I tend to find that to be a higher level of horrifying.

[Skidmore]

3. I'd rather donate to the one of the areas animal control centers.

[hifiguy]

4. A donation to a local animal shelter

will do infinitely more good in the world than wasting one second of attention on PETA's PR wanking.

[qb]

5. I feel sorry for abused animals, but no... they are not equivalent to human beings.

PETA just loses more credibility with garbage like this.

[seabeyond]

6. peta is teaching a whole new generation to scorn them. this doesnt endear

this invites ridicule.

but then as people assure me, this is petas goal

mind boggling

[The Straight Story]

7. I think they use the same media company as westboro baptist :) (nt)

[seabeyond]

8. point. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

9. First of all, everybody knows

you don't cook animals in the microwave. Yuk.

[provis99]

11. PETA=spoiled, bored trust fund kids looking for attention.

Give money to your local animal shelter, instead.

[justiceischeap]

15. Wow! I take offense to that statement

I used to work for PETA and I have never been spoiled, had a trust fund nor was I looking for attention. I was working to help the animals. That doesn't mean I always agree with PETA's tactics but like it or not, their marketing strategy works and that says more about our society than it does about PETA.

[seabeyond]

17. no, it doesnt. and it is tired to suggest repulsing people from org, "works". nt

[justiceischeap]

20. You're talking about it, aren't you?

That's all they care about. Is that people talk about it. They don't care if it's in a positive or negative way, as long as it's discussed. I stand by my statement that their marketing tactics work. They aren't out to recruit people, they are all about getting noticed, good or bad.

[seabeyond]

25. talking about what a piece of shit org this is. not about the issue.

no fool org or company except westborough thinks that is good enough

[NeedleCast]

30. You don't really believe that all publicity is good publicity, do you?

Because that would be silly.

[justiceischeap]

56. I'm saying that's what they feel...

that's their marketing strategy. If you read further down in this thread, I said that was one of the reasons I left the organization.

[TorchTheWitch]

63. Their marketing tactics like this completely backfire

Negative ad campaigns only work when the negative is about the OTHER product/person/idea/cause - not when the negativity is about the product/person/idea/cause you're trying to sell. Take a look through this or any PETA thread and you'll figure out really quick what it DOES do... it turns people off to PETA so much that they make a point to NOT donate to them and the added bonus of making all animal activists look like fruitcakes, and even worse it actually gets people to question the soundness of the cause itself. The vegetarian campaign decades ago when it first really became popular made the same mistake, and it's taken decades for people to finally get that "vegetarians are obnoxious nutcases" theme out of their heads and start looking at it more logically and without the negative emotion toward vegetarianism that the failed marketing strategy actually caused.

If PETA is all about just getting talked about even if it's all negative discussion toward them, then one has to wonder if their actual point is to turn people OFF to not being cruel to animals and have people NOT send them donations... especially when they have a history of not practicing what they preach and being intentionally cruel to animals.

The vast majority of PETA ads involve a blatant "sex sells" strategy where donations most likely come from. But they've gone so far overboard with it that people are getting turned off by the continual parade of naked cute young women and mostly female celebrities as the misogynist offensive shit that it is, and that too is backfiring on them.

Just what does PETA actually DO other than advertise? There's another marketing colossal failure of theirs. There is NOTHING in their marketing that tells anyone what it is they supposedly DO other than make obnoxious bone-headed ads that turn people off to PETA and their supposed cause.

And no wonder their whole marketing strategies suck ass when so much of their philosophy is whacko... they don't believe that animals should be kept as pets or used for work and they should all just run free like Bambi (free to have no habitat that can sustain them and starve) while we are forced to do everything by machines and inefficient other means. That's right... no pets, plow or cart horses, search and rescue animals, therapy animals and on and on. The fields can just be plowed with polluting machines, the blind can stumble into traffic and the depressed can just suck it up and take some meds or kill themselves.

[WatsonT]

66. They could start protesting funerals of people who ate meat

A few stories of people screaming "animal murderer!" at a funeral as the family cries and looks on in disgust would really get people talking.

Brilliant!

[snooper2]

12. Any PETA supporters on DU anymore? Please chime in

.........tell us how this add will save a squirrel somewhere

[and-justice-for-all]

27. its an 'ad' and not an 'add'

What they mean to say is that human and animal suffering are the same. Which makes sense to me; being that Humans are Animals.

[Shagbark Hickory]

35. I wouldn't say I'm a supporter per se but I'm not- not a supporter. I think this ad will bring a

greater awareness to the slaughter of juvenile animals for consumption and for that I say let it be displayed.

I can also understand the perspective of the billboard company however and that's that they're all walking on proverbial eggshells as it is. In many locales, they're one referendum away from being banned or even more heavily restricted. I can see how this ad could cause problems as billboards are really the only type of in your face advertising still allowed and even that is at constant risk.

[FLPanhandle]

36. So you approve of the anti-abortionist's graphic billboard tactic too then.

Since they say "it brings greater awareness to the slaughter of unborn children".

Just curious if you approve of others using that tactic or if you are a hypocrite.

[Shagbark Hickory]

37. Last summer I was in Chicago and it was bumper to bumper traffic and those nutbags were out

holding up graphic signs with aborted fetuses only feet away from the cars.
We had no way to escape it.

Do I agree with them, no. Do I think they should be able to hold up signs with graphic pictures, yes.

You know, that's what Peta did before they realized they could get 4000% more publicity if they just try to get a billboard and get turned down.

[FLPanhandle]

38. Personally, I don't approve of evangelical behavior

Someone's always trying to push their morals onto someone else. Be it anti-abortionists or the anti-meat crowd.

To me, live your life, live your moral code, but you cross the line when you start trying to "educate" others to align with your moral choices.

Fuck 'em both.

[Shagbark Hickory]

39. So to hell with the first ammendment then?

I'll tell anyone who'll listen about why we should have universal healthcare and why we should nationalize the oil. I could use graphic pictures of birds and turtles covered in oil.
Not to give you a taste of your own medicide but are you saying I shouldn't be allowed to do this as well?

[FLPanhandle]

40. Both groups have the right to act like assholes.

I have the right to say what I feel about them.

As for your example of oil covered birds and turtles, that isn't an imposition of morality. Requiring companies have safeguards against oil spills isn't targeting a persons moral choices or behavior. Everyone gains. Same with healthcare.

Anti-abortionists, anti-meat, and other moral imposition groups are targeting peoples personal behaviors. If you can't see the difference, then either you don't want to look in that mirror or you are fooling yourself.

I suspect since you worked for PETA, it's the former.

[Shagbark Hickory]

43. Worked for Peta?!?! Um WTF R U talkin bout Willis?

The disrespectful tone was bad enough but saying I work for peta?

Good grief.

[ProfessorGAC]

59. The First Ammendment Doesn't Say I Have To Listen

It says the GOVERNMENT can't infringe on the right to free speech. Nowhere doesn't say that i have to listen to, look at, or approve of someone saying something which i find ridiculous or repulsive.

The first ammendment has NOTHING to do with what the other poster said.
GAC

[Forkboy]

41. I love 'em.

Watching people wet their keks every time PETA breathes is awesomely hilarious. They consistently piss off people who are fun to piss off. For that alone I think they're great.

[flvegan]

44. Ah, Forkboy hits another out of the park.

[stuntcat]

68. :D

It's interesting watching how hateful and outraged humans get with them. Almost like PETA is baiting everyone.

Two things I'm proud of going 'radical' over- animals and environment.

[badtoworse]

13. A few years ago, it was breast milk ice cream

Those people are morons

[damntexdem]

14. PETA is pathetic. Real scumbags.

But this is worse than their usual nonsense.

[justiceischeap]

16. See #15 nt

[seabeyond]

18. see number #17. it is a lazy way to get support, and stupid. nt

[Occulus]

23. Yeah, well

see my money stay in my pocket.

Not one cent to PETA from my money. Not now, not later, not ever. Frankly, their messaging and tactics disgust me, and I'm on the same side of the issues as they are.

If I want to help animals, I'll donate my money to an animal shelter. It'll go further, have more of an impact, and be a more honest donation than anything I could give to PETA.

[justiceischeap]

24. I think everyone is missing the point at PETA these days

They don't want your donation, they want their message and name, good or bad, in front of people. They feel this ad is successful because it gets people talking. They feel anything they do that generates conversation, is good. Period. Talking about how much PETA disgusts you is to them successful marketing. That's one of the reasons I left because I didn't agree with those tactics. That said, because of their marketing objectives, they have yet again succeeded because people are talking about the ad.

[seabeyond]

31. they can FEEl whatever the fuck they want. to have a whole generation being raised that peta is a

pice of shit org is not good. they can say it is good. they can say that is what they want. who the fuck cares. to vomit in mouth everytime you hear their name is not good.

[Ikonoklast]

54. So, you're saying they aren't really accomplishing anything positive

except to get their name in the paper.

Sounds about right to me.


I'll donate to my local shelter yet once again; PETA can do performance art for idiots.

[Kievan Rus]

50. PETA is to animal rights activists what al-Qaeda is to Islam

[and-justice-for-all]

26. "ad compared black people to animals." Huh???

:eyes: and I have no issue with PETA either.

[rsmith6621]

28. PRIME RIB ANYONE??? How about Rabbit...

......This group PETA is ridiculous...anyhow I'm hungry...

[hobbit709]

29. In some parts of the world long pig was ritualized.

[Forkboy]

42. LOL...I see a bunch of people looking up "long pig" and cringing.

:)

[JI7]

32. i'm sure a lot of people will give up meat after seeing this

[Johonny]

33. The text reads "Everybody’s Somebody's Baby. Go Vegan."

Except plants apparently. Because plants spring from the ground by the grace of GOD and not from seeds that had parents!

[Chimichurri]

34. This is where they lose me. I'm all for protecting animals and all but this goes too far.

[backwoodsbob]

45. that is disgusting

I will support ANYONE who opposes them..dont give a fuck what bagde is nextr to there name

[petronius]

46. I'm a lot more appalled that somebody murdered a baby in a microwave than by

anything PETA wants to do with the story... :(

[Forkboy]

47. Don't go ruining the PETA Hate Brigade's fun.

[seabeyond]

58. this was petas goal. they succeeded. why try to minimize it? nt

[Forkboy]

60. Speak of the devil.

[seabeyond]

61. ya? so? you guys act like ... well i dont know what... cause a poster say org is a piece of shit

org. when they purposely create themselves as a piece of shit org. and then duers actually tried to defend the piece of shit org. that worked hard to become a peice of shit org

not being very loyal.

[Forkboy]

65. I don't even know what you're trying to say.

First, who is "you guys"? I'm not a PETA member. My lunch is sitting right beside me and consists of sausage filled ravioli. Certain types of people (cough) need a daily outrage, and PETA serves it up to them on a silver platter (all veggies, of course). It's fucking hilarious watching people react to PETA. They piss off the people I enjoy seeing get pissed off, because it's almost always the type of people who want to be pissed off about something anyways. They seem to crave the outrage, and I'm reminded of Pavlov in every PETA thread. Ring the PETA bell and the perpetually outraged show up faster than the Roadrunner on crack.

And as for the loyal stuff, full sentences would be nice as I have no idea if you mean me or them or Bob your Uncle.

[WatsonT]

67. It's like when they compare eating meat to the holocaust

Obviously the actual holocaust was the worse crime between the two.

But it's still in poor taste and makes PETA look like a bunch of douchebags.

[Kievan Rus]

48. PETA gives animal rights a bad name

[Evoman]

49. Idiots. Who would waste precious Baby meat in a microwave?

That's like putting a 30 dollar steak in the microwave. And that putting it mildly...good luck in finding a baby for 30 bucks.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

51. I wouldn't be surprised if PETA is funded under the table by the livestock industry

to be as outrageous and irrelevant as possible to discredit attempts to legislate humane treatment of farm animals.

[Nailzberg]

52. The only Peta I care about is stuffed with lamb. Yummy.

[Arkana]

53. And they wonder why people are revolted by them.

Hey, PETA--this does not win you friends. It does not make people sympathetic to your cause.

What's next, comparing pictures of the Goatse guy with hot dogs?

[CrawlingChaos]

55. The way animals are treated is shocking and horrifying

I'm tired of people not giving a shit.

The ad sounds fine to me.

[stuntcat]

69. they don't know

how they're treated. Even if someone wanted to show them they wouldn't look.

It's being compared to the Holocaust here. What goes on every day all over the place to sentient beings breaks my heart just as much. And worse, no one cares. But that's what it's like being human- Oh ho-humm, cows pigs and chickens aren't worthy of any life except one of constant misery, so eat up. Anytime anyone brings it up online is another chance to brag about how you love eating tortured baby cows.

But I'msupposed to love humanity.

[yella_dawg]

57. PETA must be a right-wing funded sham group tasked with smearing environmentalists.

Their ongoing idiocy can't be explained any other way.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

62. That's ridiculous. Everyone knows babies should be barbequed.

[HappyMe]

64. A new low for peta.

They have only convinced me that they are truly nutcases. Meatloaf for dinner tonight.

I donate a few dollars & food to the local shelter.