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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:08 PM
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President Obama's Non-Acknowledgment of Today's Jobs Report
Edited on Sat Jun-04-11 02:14 PM by woo me with science
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/06/president-obamas-non-acknowledgment-of-todays-jobs-report.html

President Obama's Non-Acknowledgment of Today's Jobs Report

June 03, 2011 4:56 PM

President Obama’s comments today made no specific mention of the disappointing jobs report or the fact that the unemployment rate ticked upward.

Instead the president focused on signs of life in the auto industry, while saying: “I don’t want to pretend like everything is solved. We’ve still got a long way to go not just in this industry, but in our economy; for all our friends, all our neighbors who are still feeling the sting of recession. …Even though the economy is growing, even though it’s created more than 2 million jobs over the past 15 months, we still face some tough times. We still face some challenges.”

While House officials claimed that there was no change in the president’s general message. And it’s true that the president generally has the same talking points about how things are getting better though we’re not out of the woods yet, and there are ups and downs.

But when the jobs numbers are good, the president likes to acknowledge them, and tell people the number.

....

So are we going to keep pretending everything's getting better? Because it's not.

Dammit, I want our candidate to show us he GETS IT, every single fucking day. He should be focused on jobs constantly. He should tell us his plan for how the jobs are going to come back, not pretend this is not happening.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:10 PM
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1. Its still, "The economy, Stupid!"
Edited on Sat Jun-04-11 02:10 PM by Vanje
...and by "economy", I don't mean Wall Street.
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SugarShack Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:29 PM
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8. Obama would have to talk about 4 democracts that voted against our jobs bill!
Ben Nelson, Mark Warner, and I forget the other dem trolls on that bill.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:18 PM
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3. Wow.
You attacked the messenger even faster than I expected. :eyes:
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Eagle Mall Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:30 PM
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9. are you the same messenger who said this:
"So are we going to keep pretending everything's getting better? Because it's not."

Because that's a load of shit, friend.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:49 PM
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13. I disagree.
Edited on Sat Jun-04-11 02:50 PM by woo me with science
I see a lot of messaging that we're on the right track and things are getting better, but the jobs numbers and the experiences of people everywhere around us tell a much different story.

What is his plan for jobs? Can you tell me? Going into an election, jobs should be his message. A downward trend requires a forceful response that he SEES this problem and is on it.

Long-term lack of employment is at the very core of people's misery and fear right now. It is at the core of this stalled economy. Messaging past these numbers and downplaying the jobs crisis is not going to win this election.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:20 PM
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4. A poster on DU. It is a message board
Edited on Sat Jun-04-11 02:23 PM by Autumn
where people post stuff. What are you?
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:27 PM
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7. Good question nt
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Eagle Mall Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:31 PM
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10. When someone claims to know that the Economy will most certainly get worse,
I want to know if they're qualified to make that claim.

I seriously doubt woo is.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:43 PM
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12. The poster didn't make any claim to be qualified
Edited on Sat Jun-04-11 02:51 PM by Autumn
the poster posted an article and made comments on it. That's what people do on a message board. See the purpose of a message board is to post things that one reads or believes just might be worth talking about or sharing ones opinion about it. If no one can post anything because it might make YOU unhappy, its just not a very good message board. Before you insist on their credentials, you might share yours.
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Eagle Mall Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 04:22 PM
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17. he accused me of attacking the messenger. I was attacking his message of cynicism and doubt.
Maybe you agree with him.

It doesn't come close to making you right.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:23 PM
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5. So, address the issue and explain
how you think the poster is incorrect.
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Eagle Mall Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:33 PM
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11. The Economy is improving. Maybe not as fast as woo wants.
But his claim that nothing is getting better and that it will only get worse is the kind of bluster that I expect from Repigs.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:49 PM
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14. Are you not aware that unemployment went UP?
From 9.0% to 9.1%. The stock market just took another dive, there are approximately 1 million foreclosures set to happen in the next 12 months and only 36,000 jobs were created last month. Congress just raised the debt ceiling, the 99 weekers are out of options (still no jobs), Obama and the Democrats have agreed that Medicare and SS cuts are now "on the table," there has been no banking reforms to keep this all from happening again, we're borrowing TRILLIONS from the Chinese to pay for THREE wars, housing prices continue to plummet, people are unemployed or underemployed in record numbers, there are still 50 million people without health insurance . . .

There, there's a few things for you to start with, otherwise, speaking of bluster . . .
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Eagle Mall Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 04:23 PM
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18. Sounds like a lot of fear-mongering wrapped up in an "woe is the economy" bow
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 04:40 PM
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19. You sound like you're whistling past the graveyard wrapped up in a "We live
in the best of all possible worlds" Panglossian bow.

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Eagle Mall Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:18 AM
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20. so, if someone doesn't buy into your cynicism whole hog they're automatically Ivory Towered?
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 10:18 AM by Eagle Mall
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 10:22 AM
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21. The market took a dive?
News to me.

Did you know last summer at this time, the DOW was at 9800? And at that time, DU was ON FIRE because THAT signaled the end of the world.

The unemployment rate jumped a HUGE .1%. wow.

What was it this time last summer?

What do the trends look like from when Obama took office to now?

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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:52 PM
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15. "Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff"
Edited on Sat Jun-04-11 02:53 PM by woo me with science

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43239586


Horror for US Economy as Data Falls off Cliff
Published: Wednesday, 1 Jun 2011 | 2:09 PM ET
By: Patrick Allen
CNBC EMEA Head of News


The last month has been a horror show for the U.S. economy, with economic data falling off a cliff, according to Mike Riddell, a fund manager at M&G Investments in London.

"It seems that almost every bit of data about the health of the US economy has disappointed expectations recently," said Riddell, in a note sent to CNBC on Wednesday.

"US house prices have fallen by more than 5 percent year on year, pending home sales have collapsed and existing home sales disappointed, the trend of improving jobless claims has arrested, first quarter GDP wasn’t revised upwards by the 0.4 percent forecast, durables goods orders shrank, manufacturing surveys from Philadelphia Fed, Richmond Fed and Chicago Fed were all very disappointing."

"And that’s just in the last week and a bit," said Riddell.

(more at link)
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 03:00 PM
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16. That's a good article. I think Riddell might
be right, the situation going to get worse.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 02:23 PM
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6. What that Obama said is wrong?
We have added 2.1 million jobs in the past 15 months. That's a true statement.

He could have also pointed out that GOP Govonor's have killed about 800,000 public / government jobs in that same time frame.
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