Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Crumbling Institutions, Crumbling Economy - FDL

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:48 PM
Original message
Crumbling Institutions, Crumbling Economy - FDL
Crumbling Institutions, Crumbling Economy
By: masaccio - FDL
Sunday June 19, 2011 10:40 am

<snip>

The foundations of our society have been rotting for years. The Great Crash of 2008 was the inevitable result. As with most things in a complicated society, things don’t crumble from one big change, but from a number of small changes that eat away the pillars on which the society is built. Three of the major contributors to the Great Crash were incompetent academic economists, weakened regulation and fraud.

Academic Economists.
Academic economists were entranced by mathematics, and learned to write everything in the form of equations. Once those equations were on paper, they became real, and any outcome you could produce with algebra or calculus became just as real. They began to push those equations farther and farther, without regard to the way real people act.

Consider the Efficient Market Hypothesis. In its weak form, the EMH says that prices of securities reflect all publicly available information. Everyone on Wall Street, and many of the rest of us, knew there was a housing bubble, and that it could not continue. That fact wasn’t reflected in prices on the stock market. There was some academic pushback, but the EMH is still a mainstay of academic thinking.

Even more astonishing is the idea pushed by academic economists that markets police themselves. I first met this argument when I was the Securities Commissioner in Tennessee. A professor at Vanderbilt’s business grad school told me that I was wasting my time regulating securities and prosecuting fraud cases. His view was that people would cheat, but they wouldn’t be able to do so for long because the markets would figure it out and push them out. That nonsense was the rationale for dismantling the regulatory apparatus.

In the wake of the Great Crash, academic economists have not changed their views, let alone offered mea culpas for their sins against good sense. The people who got it wrong are still running things, and still pushing their failed ideas.

Weakened Regulation...

<snip>

More: http://firedoglake.com/2011/06/19/crumbling-institutions-crumbling-economy/

:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
1. K'd and R'd
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 02:03 PM
Response to Original message
2. recommend
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
3. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:22 PM
Response to Original message
4. Another FDL anonymous blogger, whose
qualifications appear to be "I read a lot of books."

Is this anonymous blogger correct? Perhaps, but why does he warrant an OP on DU. Why not write your own thoughts? Do you know this blogger? What makes his/her thoughts of any more value than anyone else?

I'm sorry, but anonymous blog articles leave me cold. I'd rather hear what you think.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Oh I Don't Know... Sounds Qualified To Me...
"I first met this argument when I was the Securities Commissioner in Tennessee. A professor at Vanderbilt’s business grad school told me that I was wasting my time regulating securities and prosecuting fraud cases."

And as far as anonimity... I pretty sure your real name isn't MineralMan.

And I doubt any of us here are gonna start publishing our names and addresses anytime soon, eh?

:shrug:

:hi:



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. No, MineralMan's not my name.
Edited on Sun Jun-19-11 03:42 PM by MineralMan
You want that, you have to go to my profile and click the link, or just click the link in my signature line to the DFL precinct website I created when I became precinct chair. I'm not anonymous at all. I gave up anonymity on the internet years ago, when a web site published my personal information, in an attempt to intimidate me. Trying to be anonymous is a waste of time, in most cases.

Why would I try to be anonymous? Everything I write, I stand behind. I think the questions I asked are reasonable ones.

As for your anonymous blogger, I do not know that anything he/she says is true. I do not know if he/she was Securities Commissioner in Tennessee. Unless you know the person, you do not know that, either.

So, have a nice day, if you can. I am.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Having A Great Day, Thanks MM !!!
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Do you have an actual criticism of the article..
or are you just here to distract with mindless "attack the messenger" tactics?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 09:20 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC