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RyanPsych Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 01:56 PM
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Sign the petition to ask Clarence Thomas to resign!
Thinkprogress via CREDO Action has launched a petition asking that Clarence Thomas resign amid his ethics scandals and controversies.

Sign it here: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/06/21/249936/credo-thomas-petition/

They already have 100,000- lets make it 200,000 DU! Get this crook off the court
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 01:59 PM
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1. well, I have no problem in signing, but really...
Do you think he gives a damn about even millions of upset liberal/progressives? Why would this make him resign?
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RyanPsych Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:03 PM
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2. Eh- mostly just to make a stink
But, I mean it can't hurt. Maybe some miracle will happen and some MSM outlet picks it up. Probably not, but I like I said- it can't hurt
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baldingrockwarlord2 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:34 PM
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20. I'm w/ you on this...
It wouldn't matter if it was the POTUS, or leaders of Justice Thomas' own party asked him to resign, or no matter how many signatures you'd get-no way in hell he'd ever consider it. Petitioning to set some type of impeachment or removal-perhaps a slim better chance..... We've got him in that chair until he dies of natural causes.Get used to it.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:04 PM
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3. Online petitions that gather my email and street address
do not get my signature. It's just going to be used for data mining and will have absolutely no affect on Clarence Thomas.

Sorry.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:06 PM
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4. Isn't it clever how they do that? Yet people fall for it over and over. n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:42 PM
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23. And yet, such petitions work. They worked so well when
Van Jones went after Glenn Beck's advertisers, that the far right smear machine was sent out to go after Van Jones. Had Democrats not caved on Van Jones they would not have succeeded of course.

They worked to stop the airing of the Clear Channel Kerry movie during that election, petitions signed by thousands of democrats caused them to have to back down.

And just this past week, two petitions I signed recently regarding Bahrain eg, succeeded not to mention the ones we signed against the suspension of Keith Olbermann from MSNBC.

No one is falling for anything. We are all grown ups here and know how the internet works. I have no problem with them knowing who I am if that is what it takes to get things done, that Congress doesn't appear to be able or willing to do. It's a small price to pay imo.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:54 PM
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29. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc
How did the petition against Olbermann's suspension do again?

Do you think online petitions are more effective than, say, Code Pink's "citizen's arrests"? Haven't heard too much about those lately.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:44 PM
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31. It depends on what the petitions are for. Clarence Thomas has
too thick a skin. Nothing will make him resign. He has to be impeached or
forced out some way.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:49 PM
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32. Which is why...
it makes more sense to work to restore the Dems to control of the House.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 05:51 AM
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38. Yes. It's quite a big undertaking, but a worthwhile one.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 04:36 PM
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30. "No one is falling for anything." Yeah, right. If I were a spammer looking to harvest valid email
addresses what better way than to bait Liberals and Democrats to sign a petition going after Thomas. Easier than shooting fish in a barrel as they keep jumping into the barrel.

It's a simple matter to cite the petitions that work and ignore those that don't.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:07 PM
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5. Throw away email addresses come in handy....
for petitions.... The rare instance I ever even look at the email address, I find the spam filter to be filled to the brim. ;)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:14 PM
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7. Not the point.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 02:17 PM by MineralMan
In the first place, I have a single email address, where people who wish to contact me can do so. In the second place, I do not add my name and addresses to anyone's list. I know where thinkprogress is, should I want to visit them, and I already get enough spam asking for money I don't have or trying to sell me some shit. Finally, this petition is absolutely worthless. It will accomplish nothing, but thinkprogress or whoever will get 125,000 names to spam. Is that what progressivism is? I do not think so.

If you want to remove Clarence Thomas, spend your time electing Democrats to the House of Representatives. That's my advice. Then tell them what you want. Stupid online petitions aren't going to do the trick.

Data mining sucks. That is all.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:16 PM
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10. Chill... I was not arguing with you. I agree
:shrug:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:18 PM
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12. I do not chill. I am a serious person, unless I'm obviously joking.
Please make your suggestions to someone else. Thanks.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:19 PM
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15. Why so rude, MineralMan?
I was not so to you.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:20 PM
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16. Nor was I to you. I simply stated my position.
Telling people to "chill" is impolite. Telling people to do anything of the sort is impolite.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:26 PM
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19. Perhaps you should review your own post...
Considering you feel it appropriate to harangue me for simply commenting. Exceedingly rude.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:35 PM
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21. What do you think they'll do with that info? Hunt you down. Blacklist you. Tell ur boss?
I've also been signing their on-line petitions for years and get nothing worse than an occasional e-mails from that group. Sometimes I read them, sometimes I delete.

Cheeze, MM, you are so negative about such things. Kinda makes think you don't like them.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:46 PM
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24. I already get too much spam.
I don't need any more.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:10 PM
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26. You can have all my 3700 unread emails, if you like. ;-)
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 03:11 PM by leveymg
UPDATE: Make that 3821, and that's just the primary account, not including the backups . . .
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:18 PM
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27. Gosh, thanks!
Yahoo Mail has a really good spam filter. I scan the spam folder every morning for anything that has slipped through that I need to see just by looking at the sender's address, then delete them all. Over time, I've really cut down on the number of spam emails I get. Part of that way is not to put my email address into sites that are collecting email addresses. It's worked pretty well.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:36 PM
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22. I have never been spammed by Think Progress simply by
signing a petition.

Electing Democrats did NOT remove Clarence Thomas from the SC.

Have they made any statements lately about the scandals surrounding him?

They were quick to jump on Rep. Weiner, even taking time on the weekend to do so.

Seems sometimes that electing Democrats is more likely to get Liberals removed from Congress than corrupt, Corporate owned judges from the SC.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:46 PM
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28. Yes, that's most people do.
Anyone who has been posting on Progressive blogs and signed petitions for years that I know of, being that they sign mostly petitions from reputable progressives sources, have never complained about spamming.

The only emails I get are from those I have given permission to email me.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:11 PM
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6. Shut up and give me your social security number, dammit!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:17 PM
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11. I have been signing them for years, have no problem giving
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 02:17 PM by sabrina 1
them my address and have never had any repercussions for doing so.

And they DO work. Several such campaigns have influenced many major issues.

Signed and :kick:

Every effort to take this Corporate Tool off the SC is worth it.

Thanks to the OP for the thread!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:19 PM
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13. OK. I don't sign them. I have given my opinion. Thanks for your
reply about my opinion. You have not changed my mind, however.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
36. I always put in a fake address
and use "big" "willq" as my first and last name.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:54 AM
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39. I can't do that. When I sign a petition, it is a statement from
me. Why would I not use my real name?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:29 AM
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42. Just an option
if you don't want to give out name, address, phone number, e-mail address....it's still counted as a +1 whether it's your real name or not. Power in numbers!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 01:41 PM
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43. And that's the very reason that online petitions have no particular
impact on anyone. Nobody knows who the heck signed them, since anyone can put anything they want down as their identity.

Real petitions are signed by real people, in person, in ink. You put your name on it and your signature, and some contact information because it's your voice. That's why official petitions for things like recalls and voter initiatives aren't done online. They're done for real, and those signatures are checked to make sure that the people who signed it are legitimate people who are qualified to sign it. Then, if there are enough signatures, the recall happens or the initiative is on the ballot.

These random online petitions are throwaways, and the people who run them know that nobody pays a damn bit of attention to them. But, they get to collect some valid email addresses so they can ask you for money or whatever. It's a racket. Useless.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 02:16 PM
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44. Good points (nt)
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:15 PM
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8. "Ask" Him?
Kick his ass out of office and into jail.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:16 PM
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9. He needs to be thrown from the bench!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:19 PM
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14. Forgot to rec ~
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 02:19 PM by sabrina 1
Thanks for the thread, will definitely sign the petition.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:20 PM
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17. He Isn't Going Anywhere
he's going to sit there, say nothing and collect...errrr...steal money any way he can, even if it means lying each and every year.

He strikes me as a "go fuck yourself" kinda guy.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:08 PM
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25. Well, we can keep the pressure on.
With all that has come out recently, it's getting harder and harder for Congress, Dems at least, to ignore the blatant corruption.

For some reason, Dems, other than a few, like Rep. Weiner appear to be covering for him also. So now it's up the people.
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:05 PM
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33. Amazing, some believe we still have laws and rules.
Of course we do have some, but they are only applied in politics to those who disagree with the corporatist takeover of our government. Every day I see stories about ethics complaints, and petitions. Nothing ever happens about them. Diaper Dave is still there. War criminals were never charged. Goldman Sachs still runs the country, and maybe the whole world.
I consider signing petitions a fairly harmless diversion like playing with yourself.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:25 PM
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18. Done with pleasure! n/t
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:02 PM
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34. kr
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:35 PM
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35. ^
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:39 PM
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37. Done (nt)
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:04 AM
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40. Why isn't this top of the Greatest yet?
well anyway I gave my rec. And have already signed the petition.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:06 AM
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41. What a waste. Like he gives a shit what 3 or 3 million people think
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