The South will rise again...

[man4allcats]

at least if the Sons Of Confederate Veterans and no doubt Perry (though he was not mentioned in the article) and others of that ilk have their way:

"If the Sons of Confederate Veterans have their way, the South will rise again on license plates in three more southern states. The group, whose members trace their ancestors to the rebel cause, have rebelled against decisions in Florida, Texas and Kentucky that blocked their attempts to get Confederate imagery on vanity plates.

As the country marks the 150th anniversary of the Civil War this year, the Florida chapter of the group is pushing to get the state legislature to permit motorists to use the tag they designed that features the words "Confederate Heritage" and the flag of the states that seceded from the Union.

The group celebrated a partial victory earlier this year when a federal judge ruled that Florida's process for selecting specialty licenses was unconstitutional. "It was viewpoint discrimination," Florida Sons of Confederate Veterans Commander Douglas Dawson told AOL News in March.

The Texas chapter is appealing the decision of the Lone Star state's Department of Motor Vehicles which rejected their bid for customized license plates..."

More at link...

[Scuba]

1. Can't we just let them go?

[man4allcats]

2. It works for me. I live in Houston, but at this point I'm inclined to move

to Canada.

[demosincebirth]

8. I was there a couple of weeks ago. Glad to leave...too effin HOT!

[TBF]

21. lol .. it got really hot earlier than usual this year

it's a little better this week with bits of rain. I think the weather is actually the thing I like best about Houston, but I was born in Wisconsin and quite frankly have no problem leaving if Perry decides to secede. Although I doubt that will happen because as much as he hates the USA he apparently is fixin to run for president.

[ImNotTed]

34. Can I hitch a ride?

[HockeyMom]

4. Or at the very least.

get ME out of it before it happens.

[adigal]

17. It is like a different country - Columbus Cty SC just killed

pups and moms this morning. High kill shelter, they heartstick, which is how it sounds, to kill. I just found out. I am heartbroken, and right now, the only southerners I like are dog rescuers and progressives. They rest of them can have their confederacy back.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

39. .

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[Name removed]

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[Bake]

13. Sherman's a little musty and dusty by now, dontcha think?

:rofl:

Bake

[madinmaryland]

23. Sherman's musty ass will kick those douchebag's musty asses any day.

:D

If only Skittles had been around for the Civil War. She would have put a serious ass-kicking onto Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis.

:thumbsup:

[Bake]

29. Lee didn't really surrender at Appomattox ...

Grant stole his sword, and Lee was too much of a gentlemen to ask him to give it back.

Now, if Skittles had been around then ... hey, what if Sherman was really Skittles' great grandfather???

:hi:

Bake

[madinmaryland]

37. LOL!!!

That's worthy of a DUzy!!

:hi:

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[Hosnon]

68. Oh I see.

I pity you.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

40. .

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[Hosnon]

55. Liberals and progressives would justifiably condemn any general

who waged war today like Sherman did then.

So, eff you for even invoking his sorry ass.

[bluestate10]

64. What do you think of the confederate general that ordered the slaughter

of surrendering Massachusetts 54th soldiers?

[Hosnon]

66. Equally unworthy of being invoked in any remotely positive way. nt.

[bluestate10]

65. Sherman was a general for his time. The side that he fought against was equally vicious. nt

[Hosnon]

67. And?

Wishing war crimes upon your fellow citizens for wanting a particular license plate is absurd.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

5. See! The pukes ARE creating jobs. Making license plates.

[Codeine]

6. Yay treason!

Not nearly enough of those Confederate fuckers were executed at war's end.

[Zebedeo]

20. Do you support the death penalty

in other circumstances?

[Codeine]

22. Theoretically, yes.

In practice, absolutely not.

[demosincebirth]

7. Celebrate a war, to keep slavery legal, that they started and lost? I guess many

didn't read their history books. You lost! Get over it.



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[Initech]

10. The Tea Party: Making slavery cool again since 2007!!

[JoePhilly]

30. The Tea Party: Taking Ameirca back ... to the 1850s.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

46. Gee, I wonder who published the current history books?

[demosincebirth]

52. ?

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

69. Boycott Texas History Book Publisher

Calling all college history professors and instructors. It is time to use our clout as history professors to make a statement. According to the New York Times article the Texas Board of Education is making significant changes to the history curriculum for high schools students. We need to come to the aid of Mary Helen Berlanga and use our clout as academics to boycott the rewriting of history for political purposes. If it were just Texas, I may not suggest such a boycott. However, because publishers have become so economical in the past years, the book published according to the Texas guidelines will be used by other states for their classes. It is time to say ENOUGH to this blatant attempt at censorship and academic political correctness. Censorship on the part of the publisher and censorship on the part of the Texas School Board of Education who did not even have, according to the CBC news broadcast on March, 23, 2010, The Current, an academic historian suggesting changes.
--MORE--
http://vanrankesrant.wordpress.com/2010/03/24/boycott-texas-history-book-publisher/

[tnlefty]

9. Joy, I just love threads like this!

Carry on!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

41. gawd. me too

:popcorn:

[Odin2005]

11. Celebrating treason, nice. bunch of nitwits.

[MrScorpio]

12. I take it that the SoCV are all full of yeast. nt

[FLPanhandle]

14. Considering how many people fought in the Civil War and how many generations ago that was

I'd say probably 75% of the US population can find some ancestor that fought for the Confederacy.

[Raine]

15. So quit taking federal funds if you hate the country

that beat your ass so bad then! :mad:

[man4allcats]

26. I was born in 1948; not 1848. So I didn't fight in the Civil War, and if I had

I would have fought for the North since I was born in New York and further because my parents raised me not to be a bigot. And as to federal funds, the only one I'm taking is early Social Security, and I wouldn't be taking that except I can't find a fucking job, jackass!

[Hosnon]

56. Jeez chill out. A few nuts don't speak for the entire region. nt.

[backscatter712]

16. The Confederate Battle Flag should be a symbol as reviled as the swastika.

They committed treason against the United States, started a war that killed more than half a million people, and all this over slavery. Don't give me this "states rights" bullshit - the South was interested in exactly one state's right - the right to allow their rich white people to own slaves. General Lee, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, Jefferson Davis? A gang of traitors, war criminals and murderers.

I'm feeling like having a flag-burning right now...

[Dawson Leery]

18. The Confederate Flag (rag) is a symbol of a great injustice.

The only "state" right that the confederacy fought for was the right to preserve slavery. The "yes sir, no mam" culture of the south has been a cancer upon this country.
The south was founded as a penal colony (Georgia) settled by plantation owners (slave owners). The culture of the old south still lives and has risen to take over the country.
Now we have the highest rates of incarceration in the world and slave labor in the prisons. The private sector has been de-unionized, and wages has fallen due to competition from
the "right to work" states.

The south has already risen again and we are all paying for it.

[AlanCranston]

19. while i agree that much of the south is a racist backwater

there are still plenty of similar areas north of the mason dixon line. In the northern states, the discrimination wasn't as much towards blacks as it was towards ethnic groups.

Cities like Columbus and Indianapolis in the early 20th century were very anti-catholic, anti-jewish, and opposed to immigrants from southern and eastern europe moving there. They were also
very much in support of right to work laws (because it put the immigrants in there place) and in favor of prohibition (because they believed many immigrants were drinkers). Even to this day, areas like Columbus and Indianapolis vote far more republican than their neighbors to the north (Gary, Cleveland).

[ThomasE]

51. Racism

If you could live in this POS state, you would be surprised. Indiana may be a state in the "North", but it is 100% a very racist place. Hoping to leave & very soon!

[Hosnon]

58. I agree. Most of the worst racism I've ever seen was in Northern states.

The South has a large black population; we face the reality of racial tension/conflict daily.

The South today is much more mature about racism in 2011 than most of the rest of the country.

[xphile]

24. Viewpoint discrimination? What it's too much to ask that racist organizations

not be allowed to put their shit on license plates?

I hate these people.

[loyalsister]

25. I hate how these guys pollute "The South"

There are people who live in "The South" and love The South as a region and culture of there homes and their roots. Then these idiots highjack that term to reference their confederate pride.
I think that in a rebellion and in honor of our friends from southern state, we should point to the specific groups. I don't mean to sound like language police, just want to be more inclusive and sensitive by filtering out the truly bad stuff.

[Erose999]

31. I, for one, am proud to be a southerner. We're not ALL racist pricks. Just the narrow majority who

carry elections for the RePigs are.

[stuntcat]

48. proud to be a Southerner too :D

Some of the greatest people I ever knew are from the South! And I've met some true PIGS from the North.

[loyalsister]

53. That's what I'm getting at

The south has been stereotyped based on the people who "represent" the states via elected office. I don't think they represent the south as a whole, but when people who are elected make that claim alongside confederate worshipers, people buy into stereotypes.
In my mind there are confederate worshipers and southerners - A confederate worshipper may be a southerner, but not all southerners are confederate worshippers.

[JustAmused]

27. Amazing

I love these threads. I always find the ones who will defend any group in this country, except those from the South. Frankly you broad brush artists are little more than the bigots you hate with a different color hood on. This is not a trait I have ever found among people I consider progressive or liberal. I suppose that speaks for itself. A few of the comments here are more in line with the "my team is better than your team" attitude TeaBaggers. I condemn you individually for your stances, but I would not demean your whole region, your state, your family, just because some of you act like the simple minded bigots you condemn. You know, it must to pretend you are working for a united country when you actually hate a large part of the population...lol. I suppose that irony will escape you south bashers. My sig line seems more appropriate here I think.

I used to be disgusted, now I;m just amused

[man4allcats]

28. When you refer to "you broad brush artists," I can only assume you are referring

to the author of the article I quoted. If not, then perhaps you just shot from the hip without ever having bothered to click the link. I just report the news; I don't make it. Maybe you should learn to read the news and then think critically about what you've read. Or is that too much of a mental strain for you?

[JustAmused]

44. Sorry

I was not referring to you man4. I was talking about many of the responses to your post.

[cordelia]

33. Well said, Thank you.

You'll notice that the article appears under AOL WEIRD news.

So, yet once again, a broad brush artist takes a small group of freaks and applies their idiocy across an entire region.

I believe this is an example of fallacy of division, which some might say is indicative of a weak mind.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

42. .. trying to be amused ...

always amazed at who participates in these threads and hate the fact that I am sucked into them.

[JoePhilly]

32. I like it when the racists self-identify in a manner such that you can spot them from

a distance.

Makes them easier to avoid.

[ImNotTed]

35. What if Bavarians wanted swastikas on their plates?

It's the same damn thing.

[cordelia]

36. Yep.

But I doubt you'd find very many, if any, Bavarians that would want that.

edit: typo

[Atypical Liberal]

38. These people thought they were fighting for their homes.

There is no doubt that the Civil War was fought for the same reason 99.9% of all wars are fought - money. The people in power in the South - those land owners and state representatives - were rich men who were making money off of slave labor.

The fact that they were able to rouse the dirt-poor commoners to fight for their cause should be amazing. One can imagine asking a common soldier, "If you are fighting for your state's rights, what rights are currently being threatened?"

But they fought and died by the tens of thousands. They believed in their cause.

You can see direct parallels today. Look at all the people who sign up to go fight for America's wars today, and the people back home who do not fight but support the fighting. When the party line is that we are fighting for "Freedom and Democracy", it should be trivial to ask, "Whose freedom? Whose democracy?" And yet there are countless people who honestly believe we are fighting either to protect other people's freedom and democracy or, worse, our own.

I guess it's easy to look back favorably on people in history who fought with conviction and admire them at least for their conviction.

Saw this the other day:



It is Florida's oldest Confederate veteran. He is William Allen Lundy - signed up as a drummer boy at age 10, as I recall, after going to Shiloh to visit his dying father who was mortally wounded there.

Here is a man who fought in the Civil War standing next to a supersonic jet fighter. Pretty amazing.

[demmiblue]

43. I don't get the detractors here... do they like these license plates?!

:shrug:

[Tuesday Afternoon]

45. did you see the very first reply? the replier is using this as a reason

to divide the nation. do you advocate that?

[cordelia]

49. Nope. Just another very thinly disguised

opening for yet another round of South bashing.

[Taverner]

47. Next up on license plates: The Lynching Series

Celebrating America's long, proud tradition of lynching - and the place it holds in our heart...

[Ichingcarpenter]

50. Sounds like a Bad Zombie movie

When they blew up his brother's Meth Lab the trouble started then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5-h48ItpMY


or Confederate Zombie Massacre!

You know how to deal with Zombies rising from death don't you?
Confederate Zombies are no different.

[avebury]

54. K&R

[GSLevel9]

57. I can see this thread is devoid of any actual Historians... nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

60. +1

[MrScorpio]

61. I thought that this question was already decided...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRyIMqXA_o8

[Cali_Democrat]

62. The rise will South again.

For sure.

[jorno67]

63. I never understood why this proclamation wasn't considered treason

[BOG PERSON]

70. "Whistling 'Dixie'"

is a slang expression meaning "(engaging) in unrealistically rosy fantasizing".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_(song)#Whistling_.22Dixie.22