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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:10 PM
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So Halperin called POTUS Dick.... and
we have strikes in Athens... we have a general strike in the UK.... the debt ceiling....

Well... what if he was a dick? Sure, not a nice thing to do... so we are annoyed because he called another MAN a dick? Get a grip folks, there are things a tad more important than the show of mirrors in DC...
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:14 PM
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1. I disagree. The editor of TIME magazine holds weight.
And he called the President of the United States a dick.

How does that help the situations you've described? Democrats get fired, Republicans get a big laugh. Fuck that. We need to draw the line somewhere. I love you, Nadin, as crazy as you are, but you're just wrong here. Kumbaya is a suckers game.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:15 PM
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3. This is not kumbaya
MSNBC can do what it did... but the level of distraction over this here is what is maddening. It is the new shiny, and it works like damn clockwork.

By the way, so we are clear... am I also paranoid?

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:20 PM
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6. Did he call him a 'dick' or did he say
he was 'a dick about it yesterday'? I saw the clip and am not sure I'm remembering it correctly, but it seemed he was upset over something the president said and wasn't exactly calling him a dick in general, but rather acting like one on a particular issue.

Having said that, I agree with the OP. While I've never thought much of Halperin, there are far more important issues that need attention.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:22 PM
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10. Actually, he said Obama was "kind of a dick."
Edited on Thu Jun-30-11 04:23 PM by Atman
So I guess that means he wasn't totally a dick. I don't know. Still seems a bit inappropriate for the editor of a national news magazine. But maybe I'm just being over-sensitive.

:shrug:

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:34 PM
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21. He's been suspended 'indefinitely' for the remark. And, yes, it
was inappropriate. I imagine, however, that many of them say things off-camera, which he thought his remark would be, that would get them fired if they were to say them on the air. Maybe if they spent their time on actual news, they would be less inclined to sink to these levels on or off camera. I guess I don't expect much from most of them anymore.

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:23 PM
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12. of course there are far more issues.
but I think the degeneration of the MSM is right up there.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:39 PM
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23. I agree.
I have checked the comment and apparently he said 'I think he was kind of a dick yesterday'. Not sure what it was in reference to, but he also thought it would not be on the air. Not that that elevates him in any way, just shows how they talk, and I'm sure he's not the only one, off-camera.

We definitely need higher standards for the press, in every way.

Anyhow, he has been suspended, indefinitely.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:14 PM
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2. Amazed at how many supposed smart DU'ers are not understanding the point.
He is the editor of TIME magazine.

He is a so-called journalist.

Is there a reason for people to get pissed when a so-called journalist acts like a partisan jerk off... you bet.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:17 PM
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4. And you were surprised a "smart Journalist" acted like
a partisan jack off? We have been in that environment since the 1990s... back to the future insofar as the US Media is concerned. It is NOT the first time the POTUS is called names... it used to happen like clockwork in the hearst papers back in the day, before either of us were born by the way. So we have gone back to THAT normal. And I am not surprised either.

Be distracted all you want though.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:21 PM
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8. Of course not...
especially when it's a Fox News hack.

At one time, TIME magazine was considered the top political magazine in America...hell maybe the world.

Not anymore.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:23 PM
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13. There you go
I used to read it regularly. Oh and for the record the INTERNATIONAL editions of time are that much superior to the pap they put up for national consumption,
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:24 PM
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Again---the Editor of TIME magazine shouldnt be calling POTUS
a Dick on National television.

Dude should be fired because he's lost all credibility.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:27 PM
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16. Alas he won't, he will be suspended
and in six months will be back... like it used to happen back in the day. The golden age of US Journalism when they hid their real private thoughts lasted a generation... and it was the exception, You are seeing a true normal for the US. So the head editor of hearst papers called McKinley names... and... the country went on.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:45 PM
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27. BINGO!! I don't take particular offense to the remark. But halperin
has been trying to pass himself off as an impartial journalist and he has proven that he is not. Not that most of us here haven't known that all along. He finally got careless and outed himself. He should be fired (not suspended) not because of the remark, but because he can no longer claim to be an impartial journalist with integrity.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:54 PM
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33. You will have to fire 99.9% of all reporters in the US
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:18 PM
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5. When the MSM takes the liberty of pissing on the office of the Presidency while a Dem is there,
I'm going to take a little time and call it out.

Action has already been taken; this will not spin out nearly as long as the Weiner brouhaha.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:20 PM
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7. More important than racism on national cable?
I don't think so.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:22 PM
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9. So the debt is less important than racism?
GOTCHA.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:42 PM
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25. i think we can worry about the debt and still take time to call halperin an asshole.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:46 PM
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29. Some people CAN walk and chew gum...
just sayin.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:07 PM
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37. I can also do that, but... I also understand priorities
and manipulation... which if anything SHOULD be the outrage...
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:22 PM
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11. I think we can deal with more than one thing at the same time.
Edited on Thu Jun-30-11 04:22 PM by Zoeisright
Can't you?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:24 PM
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14. That is not the impression I get
insert shiny here, is all we talk about. This is the current shiny. Mea culpa for starting the thread... just wanted to point out how much of a shiny is.

On a tin foil hat moment, I suspect some are manipulating the shinnies to keep the distraction going,
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:48 PM
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31. Do you want to be the arbiter of what the agenda is for everybody???
That's mighty lofty of you. Gee, whatever would we do if we don't have you to tell us what our priorities should be? :eyes:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:55 PM
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34. Nope, I know most folks will continue to be distracted
that is the way it is... not an arbiter, just pointing out that the media is manipulating things FOR A DAMN REASON.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:24 PM
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15. you get a grip...
a repug may be fired - what a great day
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:27 PM
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17. I'm sure you meant "we" in the generic sense. The only
entities really concerned about the repercussions of these protests are bankers and speculators (the IMF).
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:27 PM
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18. Yeah true...but do you really expect a different outcome here?
I mean...look at all the posters and outrage over Wiener-gate. People like the 'small stuff', because they don't want to sweat about the 'big stuff'. It is the anti-chicken little effect. Everything is alright, until it is in my backyard...then I will deal with it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:29 PM
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19. Yep is the shiny effect and no I don't expect it
to go any different.

Tomorrow it will be a new outrage... to distract us from what really affects my life.

Yep I might take issue with Halperin using names on national tv, to use the current outrage... but it does not affect my life one iota. Not solving this little issue with the debt ceiling will affect my life in the most negative of ways.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:40 PM
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24. Yeah, the debt ceiling should be priority no#1 imo.
Which means, I am sure, that it will be ignored until we are all eating catfood.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:42 PM
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26. If.. we can afford it
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:46 PM
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30. I didn't say how I got it...ever heard of Bum Fights?
That will be me and some other poor slob fighting to the death over a can of Friskies.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:45 PM
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28. Well that depends largely on where you live and the kind of
debt you have. Interest rates on charge cards may not be a concern for alot of folks who no longer use them. So, yes, the debt debacle may be of importance to YOU but not everybody.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:51 PM
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32. This is the great misunderstainding
a country defaulting will affect you personally whether you have credit card debt (which we don't) or not.

Having been in a country that went through that in a much smaller way... I get it.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:19 PM
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39. So, other than interest rates how else might a default affect the
average american?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:34 PM
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42. can you say depression?
Can you say less services? Can you say an austerity plan that will make Greece look like a very liberal and progressive system? This is why some in the GOP may want it... after all destroying the safety net is their objective, but a default will make it that much easier.

Take my word on this... you will feel it... and if you work for a company, for example, that has any government contracts, whether local, state or federal, those contracts have a very good chance of going away.

That is but one of the most obvious examples.

A default is not fun... even if your personal debt is zero... it might also include lovely things such as currency controls... Oh and this will be worst for the US since the Dollar will no longer be a reserve currency... which could easily lead to hyperinflation.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:33 PM
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20. Could it be as simple as ...
... Halperin knows the GOP is fucked come November 2012?

If so, then his comment sorta makes sense.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:35 PM
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22. LOL!!! n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 04:57 PM
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35. Actually, I'll bet Obama brushed it off...he's heard worse about him...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:00 PM
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36. Yep, I am sure, if he even got briefed on it
that he actually smiled and moved on... I am a dick... means I hit the target
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:14 PM
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38. Can people still call Dick Cheney "Dick" on TV?
Edited on Thu Jun-30-11 05:15 PM by Anakin Skywalker
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:23 PM
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40.  r e s p e c t
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:25 PM
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41. Don't forget the Canadian postal strike.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:35 PM
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43. Of course not
we are having more and more worker revolts world wide, don't expect oh Morning Joe to go into that
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