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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:06 AM
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ABC reporting that Murdoch dictated policy in Britain for the past 30 years.
Now if they can identify this as the reality there, when will they start reporting the reality of his reach here? The story I just watched talked about his interaction with politics there as being one of kingmaker. Nothing I see in his MO differs from what we have watched here.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:15 AM
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1. Yes let them also mention Foxnews role in 2000
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 04:15 AM by Rex
making sure by any means that GWB would become the next POTUS. Kingmaker indeed. Even if he IS the ringleader, what is the WH going to do if evidence comes out that GWB was knee deep in the shit with The Rupert? Will we finally go down the road less traveled?
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 07:05 AM
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21. "if evidence comes out that GWB was knee deep..."
I bet you President Obama will head-off any action with his ever ready phrase "let's look forward..." and nothing will happen.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:08 AM
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27. If he did..
maybe because they are blackmailing him or family members.
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:20 AM
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2. abc seriously said that? that's pretty wow.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:23 AM
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3. where did ABC report this?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:26 AM
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4. On ABC early morning news they have been running a story
about Murdoch and the scandal and discussing his reach in British politics. One of the anchors referred to his role as "patron" after the story aired.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:28 AM
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5. I'm hoping for "leg growth"
:)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:34 AM
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6. I'm trying to find a link for it.
Haven't yet but I've seen the story twice this morning. I can find other stories on the ABC site about it but not this one exactly. Don't know how soon they post links after a news cast.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:42 AM
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7. I thought I found a link...
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:00 AM
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11. As someone else said recently, let's give it an ass and arms, too...
;)

:hi:

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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:01 AM
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12. Ass.
Especially ass. :)

(I sound like Geoff Peterson.)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:39 AM
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19. And a trunk...
so he can ride out of town on the elephant he rode in on.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:44 AM
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8. So's he's responsible for UK troop losses in Iraq and Afghanistan ?
Not Tony B Liar ?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:47 AM
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10. I do think he has had an inordinate amount of influence
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 04:52 AM by Skidmore
on who makes it into positions of power. Now to the degree there is overlap with this greedy bastard's agenda, yes, he responsible for some of that policy. The same is true here in the US with Bush. Interesting how both nations ended up with the men in positions of power they did.

Here's a story that gets to your question:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/189505.html


UK media ignore Murdoch role in Iraq war
Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:51PM


After weeks of hue and cry about the Murdoch gate there seems to be a prevalent unwritten agreement among the British main stream media to ignore a fact.


While the British ordinary citizens are buried under piles of news about Murdoch's empire hacking into the voicemails of the royal family , celebrities, high-ranking politicians, a murdered teenager and the relatives of the dead soldiers , almost all media fail to report Murdoch's worst allegation : the endorsement of illegal war in Iraq.

Media observers accuse Murdoch's newspapers of being the main newspaper propagandizing the fraudulent military conflicts.

The media tycoon had given his full support to the illegal Iraq war, and many times praised former Prime Minister Tony Blair for his courage saying: "I think Tony is being extraordinarily courageous and strong on what his stance is in the Middle East."

more....
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:01 AM
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13. Interesting link - thanks
I quite like Press TV - RT News too.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:57 AM
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23. We didn't need Murdoch warmongering on Iraq. We had the New York Slimes.
It's interesting, though, to think back through events in England re Iraq. I remember reading the whopping poll figure of 80% of the British people opposed to the Iraq War. How could the government ignore that? Here it was 60% (all polls, Feb. '03, just before the invasion). But it's not difficult to understand Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld spitting on U.S. public opinion (with the New York Slimes' help). That's what they were all about. They were a corpo-fascist junta. Blair, however, never really fit their mold, despite what a shit he was (and is). It's kind of like imagining Kerry or Obama bombing/invading Iraq and slaughtering a hundred thousand innocent people in the first weeks of bombing alone, in defiance of public opinion. Either one of them is capable of continuing an occupation (Iraq) and a war (Afghanistan), but starting one, in defiance of a huge majority, abandoning even lip service to world peace and international law? Even Obama's lawless bombing of Libya has involved only a limited commitment and no invasion. He didn't start it (that we know of, anyway); he's just sort of riding in on it, with NATO cover. And Blair seemed like that kind of "liberal." So I was actually surprised when he hooked up with the Bushwhacks on their murder and mayhem binge. I could only figure that England badly needed the oil, and their oil corps, war profiteers and global trade interests were kneecapping the "poodle" and overriding any concerns he may have had about public opinion. Or something like that. He was awfully gung-ho, though.

Anyway, thinking back about Murdoch during that period and his wiretapping and hacking ops, you gotta wonder about blackmail.

Something else that occurs to me is the media hounding of David Kelly--the insider whistleblower, who told the BBC about the pre-war "sexed up" WMD intel report (the "Dodgy Dossier"), Kelly questioning the premises of the war (which was raging in Iraq at the time--summer '03). He spoke anonymously, and the BBC protected his identity--infuriating the Blair government. They instituted a high profile "hunt" for the whistleblower. There were all sorts of mysterious things happening around his identity becoming known. Somebody ratted on him, apparently, which prompted him to go to his bosses and admit talking to a BBC reporter anonymously. British intel authorities interrogated him at a "safe house" and threatened him with the Official Secrets Act. Blair was informed (on 7/7/03*--Hutton Report) that Kelly "could say" some "uncomfortable things" if he was forced to testify before a Parliamentary defense committee. He went before the committee and partially recanted. At this point, his photo was splashed on every newspaper and TV screen in England. It was a media frenzy. The government then sent him home, without protection and apparently without surveillance. He turned up dead, ten days later, in highly questionable circumstances. (Kelly, a top bio/chem scientist, supposedly sat down under a tree, on his routine walk near his home, slashed one ulnar artery--generally not a fatal injury--with a pocket knife and bled to death outdoors all night under the tree. In the phony Hutton inquiry, nobody ever asked where his "watchers" were while this was happening. For surely they were watching him!)

Figuring Murdhoch into this sequence of events--Kelly getting identified, Kelly being the center of a media frenzy, Kelly getting no protection from government and ending up (very likely) murdered for having called the war into question at a crucial moment (or for something else he knew, and had not yet disclosed, on the same subject)--makes you wonder, as to the coziness of Murdoch with government officials. Murdoch spying is possibly a new to factor in the Kelly story.

One other thing: The Blairites viciously attacked the BBC, and that attack is not over. The BBC is suffering downsizing, drastic staff cuts, defunding, etc., and has become corporate propagandistic on at least one issue--the Latin American left. I've been quite shocked by some of their reporting on Latin America, it is so biased. And of course a truly independent public news broadcaster--most especially one with the prestige and reputation of the BBC--would clearly be seen by Murdoch as a "target" to be taken down.



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*(Valerie Plame was outed one week later, on 7/14/03. Kelly found dead on 7/18/03. And Plame's Brewster-Jennings front company--front for the CIA WMD counter-proliferation project--was outed on 7/23/03. Kelly outed and probably murdered, and Plame outed and some of her agents/contacts around the world probably murdered, all within two weeks. Given the Bushites' and the Blairites' contempt for public opinion, I don't think either of these things had to do with bad publicity about the war--i.e., Joe Wilson's op-ed (7/6/03) and Kelly's whistleblowing (late May '03). I think they had to do with something harder to see--possibly a plan to seque the Iraq War right into Iran, then and there, by a false "find" of WMDs in Iraq that were traceable to Iran--a plan that got foiled--for which the Plame outings were retribution and the murder of Kelly was a coverup, preventing him from disclosing something about the WMD plot. The WMD's would have had to be imported to Iraq. Kelly had contacts in Iraq. He had been a UN weapons inspector in Iraq. Plame was a WMD expert on Iran. This was not about publicity. It was an internal government struggle over widening the war, which wasn't resolved until Rumsfeld was ousted in 2006, which I think was Bush Sr.'s doing, in collaboration with the CIA and the military brass, who did not want to take on Iran, a much better-defended country--one of the risks being a Mideast-wide nuclear war with China, Russia and Israel coming into it.)

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:49 AM
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20. It's called $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. It, as you know, talks.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 05:50 AM by WinkyDink
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:32 PM
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30. Tony was his boy
So it's both
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:44 AM
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9. The man's a sleaze.
He'll do anything to cover up his role in all this, including blaming other family members. And he can sit there and cry in front of his victims like that. I would understand if people used Murdoch as an example of demon possession.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:10 AM
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14. The Australian ABC?? Or the American ABC?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:12 AM
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15. probably the American one, since Skidmore lives in Iowa
But I don't presume to speak for anyone else.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:18 AM
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16. hmm, good point


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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:20 AM
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17. thanks!
:hi:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:28 AM
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18. American ABC.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 07:20 AM
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22. Excellent question
Rec
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:04 AM
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24. He got bush elected and drove us to a near depression. n/t
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:04 AM
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25. America too..
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:06 AM
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26. Nothing's going to happen to Murdoch - he's America's "Teflon Don".
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:23 PM
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28. And then there's the Koch brothers and their web...
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:31 PM
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29. Hartmann explored this today
And if you think it's confined to UK, you're dumber than a Fox Nation resident.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:34 PM
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31. NS, S.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:08 PM
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32. K & R
:thumbsup:
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