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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:43 PM
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Palin Spokeswoman: 'Nothing Irresponsible About Our Graphic'
By Shane D'Aprile - 01/09/11 12:18 PM ET

A spokeswoman for former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is defending the much maligned map of Democratic House districts that appeared on Palin's Facebook page.

It included what looks like the crosshairs of a gun over the district of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and another 19 Democratic members who voted in favor of healthcare.

Liberal bloggers and commentators attacked the map Saturday, with several suggesting that the visual, along with Palin's rhetoric, played a part in Saturday's mass shooting that killed at least six and left Giffords in critical condition after she was shot in the head.

Palin spokeswoman Rebecca Mansour told talk radio host Tammy Bruce in an interview that "We never, ever, ever intended it to be gun sights" and labeled comments from the left, which she said were aimed at politicizing the tragedy, "obscene."

Mansour told Bruce that the graphic was contracted out and that Palin staffers approved it without much thought saying, "it never occurred to us that anybody would consider it violent."

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/136873-palin-spokeswoman-nothing-irresponsible-about-our-graphic
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:44 PM
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1. I mean it's not as if there was blood dripping off of it or anything...
:puke:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:45 PM
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2. How do these people sleep at night? nt
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:45 PM
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3. Never intended it to be gun sights??!!
Wow. Unbelievable. :wow:
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:55 PM
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That's such an obvious lie, that even RW nutters have to see it. - n/t
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:09 PM
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63. LOL!
Any normal person would see it that way, but Repukes will still defend the *itch. Mark my words.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:45 PM
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4. i wish people would stop calling her
"Former governor " and start calling her what she is the quiter or terrorist
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:48 PM
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9. +1
She shouldn't get the honorific, having quit.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:46 PM
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5. Then why the hell did you take it down you lying POS.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:47 PM
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8. +1
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:55 PM
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26. +1000
They can't EVER take responsibility for ANYTHING. EVER
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:02 PM
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37. Exactly, what I was thinking.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:08 PM
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39. Yep
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 02:11 PM by somone
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:46 PM
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6. shrug -- it's not like we thought you were going to admit it.
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 01:47 PM by xchrom
you people aren't that responsible.

we were just waiting to see what kind of horseshit lie you would come up with.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:46 PM
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7. So target hairs from a scope on a gun (icon) has no double meaning?
Then why take it down and scrub the site!?!?! I hate GOPukers and their murderous ways...and they hate me because I am a pacifist lefty.

What a FUCKED UP COUNTRY.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:48 PM
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10. keep up your lies
You have nothing else you can do but lie because if you admit responsibility you'll end up in jail for life!
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:54 PM
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25. And that's the group that calls for self responsibility
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:48 PM
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11. O RLY, Palin?
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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:49 PM
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is that major back peddling I see? Are your minutes up yet, you worthless grifter!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:49 PM
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12. Horseshit.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:49 PM
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13. Ms. Mansour, that speaks volumes toward the judgment of your boss
and you and other staff members for SP. Sarah Palin is unsuitable for any elected office and you all should be drummed out of the business. It is time for the gravy train to be derailed and the cars to be emptied.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:49 PM
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14. You don't have to register to leave comments at The Hill. n/t
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:08 PM
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40. Thanks for the link, but I don't think they need our input... scathing comments.
Any more posts will likely just get lost in the noise.

I'm going to be there reading for awhile.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:14 PM
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43. It looks like their mods are scrubbing right and left.
Well, good. We've been quiet too long as we saw yesterday.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:16 PM
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45. Pls see my PM to you. nt
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:51 PM
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15. People complained about Palin's map for months!!
We were all screaming about how it incited violence. The Huffington Post had an article about how upsetting
it was and how the crosshairs seemed to suggest that politicians were in crosshairs. So, if Palin is so damn
dumb (well, it did take her 10 years to get through 4 colleges) that she fails to see the obvious violence
in those crosshairs---she had plenty of others on the left pointing it out to her.

She knew.

I'm so sick of this narcissists lies and narcissism.

Talibarbie does this and then shirks her shoulders, "Whaaaaa me????".

She's a filthy, disgusting creature who is now playing CYA and doing a very bad job of it.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:53 PM
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22. Talibarbie
:thumbsup:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:56 PM
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28. Even Elizabeth Hasselbeck said it was over the top and was disgusted.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:51 PM
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16. Here is an updated version for Sarah the Shootist:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:52 PM
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17. First scrub, nothing to see here
once that does not work... go on the offensive and defend this.

Stage three will be to demonize anybody who attacks Sarah for any reason whatsoever for not believing in free speech.
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udbcrzy2 Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:52 PM
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18. She even made statements about taking people out
I don't see how they can try to spin this. She has been making hateful
statements all along. And she has been called out on this many times
prior to this happening.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:52 PM
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19. It never occurred to them that the graphic might show violence?
Sounds a lot like Condi's "Who would have ever thought they'd use airplanes..."

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:53 PM
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24. Ha-ha! We both thought the same thing at the same time (see our time stamps!) nt!
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 01:54 PM by tblue37
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:12 PM
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41. fist bump!
:fistbump:
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:53 PM
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20. Why am I reminded of Condoleezza Rice saying no one could have
imagined that terrorists might use planes as weapons--despite specific warnings of just such a possibility.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:33 PM
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50. Several novelists have had their protagonists do exactly that
that I know of. But NO ONE could have imagined that anyone might fly a plane into a building.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:53 PM
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21. OK. If it wasn't to look like a gun sight through a scope,
what exactly was it supposed to be? I'm a proud liberal AND a shooter as well. Try as I might, I can't imagine that circle with crosshairs being anyting else! know Sarah thinks a bit differently than most of us do, but I'd sure like to know what that was supposed to be in HER MIND!
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:28 PM
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49. "Surveyor's symbols". No -- seriously!
That's what they're trying to claim.

MANSOUR: I just want to clarify again, and maybe it wasn't done on the record enough by us when this came out, the graphic, is just, it's basically -- we never, ever, ever intended it to be gunsights. It was simply crosshairs like you see on maps.

BRUCE: Well, it's a surveyor's symbol. It's a surveyor's symbol.

MANSOUR: It's a surveyor's symbol. I just want to say this, Tammy, if I can. This graphic was done, not even done in house -- we had a political graphics professional who did this for us.


http://www.slate.com/BLOGS/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/01/09/palin-spox-targets-on-sarahpac-map-were-actually.aspx
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:34 PM
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51. Sorry, but that explaination doesn't fit the rhetoric out of Sarah's
BIG MOUTH! You DON'T reload surveyors equipment!
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:51 PM
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57. I know.
It wasn't my claim, I was just answering your question. :hi:
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:35 PM
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54. Sure, I believe that they really are surveyors' symbols
AND SHE USED THEM BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE GUN SIGHTS!
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:55 PM
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60. I don't think anyone besides RWingers believe
that they were meant to be anything other than gun sights. For that matter, I doubt that they really believe it, either.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:37 PM
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64. It is such a laughable lie, I can't believe even the most willfully ignorant Freeper...
could believe it. I'm pretty sure that not only do they know it was intended as a gunsight, but they were quite happy it was intended that way.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:53 PM
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23. The very fact they are spinning this is an admission of guilt.
Mansour told Bruce that the graphic was contracted out and that Palin staffers approved it without much thought saying, "it never occurred to us that anybody would consider it violent."

If that not an admission of guilt. You damn well better believe it is.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:55 PM
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27. then ms mansour, why take the graphic down? surely you must be proud of it?
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:56 PM
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29. Rebecca Mansour on Twitter
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HeroTwins Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:57 PM
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30. Reload!
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:57 PM
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31. Here is the graphic that helped spur the rawandan genocide:




Not much different from Palins
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:59 PM
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32. What about this


In addition to the false claim being advanced that Palin never referred to the crosshairs as "bullseyes," she seems to want to create the impression that this is an isolated incident.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:00 PM
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34. here's the bullseye comment
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:00 PM
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33. Yeah right. Sarah thinks she can spin her way out of anything.
She cares more about that map than the effect it had on Congresswoman Giffords.

Sarah lacks empathy and responsibility so much so that she doesn't give a damn about the hate and damage she's caused across this country.

And people in this country still worship this Gorgon.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:01 PM
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35. "Irresponsible" is in the eye of the beholder.




And as far as the Failin crowd and Teabaggers are concerned, they don't even have a clue.



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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:02 PM
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36. "We never, ever, ever intended it to be gun sights"
Sure thing, Sarah.

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Amaril Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:07 PM
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38. Oh, ok! So they're just MORONS.
How silly of "us" to take their violent images and words and their threats of "second ammendment" solutions "literally".

They're obviously just poor, stupid folk who couldn't figure out how to do a search in ClipArt, and used the first circle-looking thingie......what are they calling it? A surveyor's mark, or some such nonsense?.......they stumbled across.

'Scuze me while I :puke:
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:13 PM
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42. They were called out on this on "The View" in March 2010. What bullshit! - Youtube enclosed.
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 02:15 PM by Ellipsis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGoZcPayJds&feature=play... !




Whoopi: "What ever comes down on this, it's on your hands."... "Watch yourselves talking heads."
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:15 PM
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44. If so then why did the website Scub the Map on the day
of the shooting...
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:17 PM
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46. the ignorant can not be educated - they remain uneducated by choice
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:20 PM
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47. What are they cheerios with a sideways x in them?
BS, the images on the map are clearly an image of the cross hairs in a gun scope, they can not be called anything other than that.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:21 PM
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48. still up on here facebook page
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:34 PM
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52. the sarah pac site has it gone....
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 02:34 PM by spanone
www.sarahpac.com
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:35 PM
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53. Bad publicity is better than none, huh Sarah?
They've canceled her tv show and her second book isn't selling. This horrible incident explodes with Palin near the center of it and she still doesn't get it.
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:35 PM
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55. So why did immediately scrub it from her page?
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:38 PM
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56. Sarah, you and every one around you make me sick.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:53 PM
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58. Tammy Bruce...ugh.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:54 PM
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59. Nobody would consider it violent except the
constituency they are pandering too, the gun enthusiasts who want no laws or rules whatsoever governing gun ownership. Of course Palin staffers also see nothing wrong with her callousness about animal abuse so I can see why this wouldn't set off alarms with them. They must be an awful group of people to socialize with.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:56 PM
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61. Bullshit.
They are as dumb as their employer.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:58 PM
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62. Yeah, right...
Total bullshit response.
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