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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:38 PM
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Hang on a sec . . . could this actually be . . . good news??!!111?!1!
U.S. Sues BP and Other Companies Over Gulf Spill
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: December 15, 2010

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department on Wednesday sued BP Exploration and Production Inc. and eight other companies in the Gulf oil spill disaster in an effort to recover billions of dollars from the largest offshore spill in U.S. history.

The Obama administration's lawsuit asks that the companies be held liable without limitation under the Oil Pollution Act for all removal costs and damages caused by the oil spill, including damages to natural resources. The lawsuit also seeks civil penalties under the Clean Water Act.

An explosion that killed 11 workers at BP's Macondo well last April led to oil spewing from the company's undersea well — more than 200 million gallons in all by the government's estimate. BP disputes the figure.

The department filed the suit in federal court in New Orleans.

The other defendants in the case are Anadarko Exploration & Production LP and Anadarko Petroleum Corp.; MOEX Offshore 2007 LLC; Triton Asset Leasing GMBH; Transocean Holdings LLC and Transocean Offshore Deepwater Drilling Inc. and Transocean Deepwater Inc.; and BP's insurer, QBE Underwriting Ltd./Lloyd's Syndicate 1036.

Anadarko and MOEX are minority owners of the well that blew out. Transocean owned the rig that BP was leasing.

The rest: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/12/15/business/AP-US-Gulf-Oil-Spill-Justice.html?_r=1&hp
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:39 PM
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1. k&r
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:41 PM
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2. Finally.
Some good news. Nail BP's ass to the WALL -- no settlement like Arnie did out here in CA after the Enron scam.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:42 PM
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3. It could actually be...
This is the thing that is so maddening about Obama: One minute, he's caving to the Republicans, and behaving as though he belongs to them...and the next minute, he's just who we thought he was, when we elected him.

When something like this happens, I feel renewed hope that maybe, just maybe, he might be really good for us, after all...

I just wish he were more consistent.

Recommended.

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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:48 PM
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6. I'm sure they've been preparing this case for a while
A major case like this can't be assembled overnight.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:54 PM
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11. true. this stuff doesn't happen out of the blue overnight
Obama's people were working while some here were complaining and pissing about how Obama does shit all and what a thorough dissapointment he is.

as if he has to personally send a progress report to every DUer.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:25 PM
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28. He's playing chess..
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:47 PM
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4.  k&r
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:47 PM
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5. Wait...government holding corporations accountable?
Is this a new concept?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:48 PM
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7. Good News, Sir? Never Heard Of the Stuff....
"Always borrow from pessimists; they don't expect to be paid back."
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:50 PM
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8. Certainly sounds like. Credit where it's due if the administration follows through on this.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:51 PM
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9. This is exactly what the President said he was going to do.
Preparing to file such a case takes quite some time. I don't know why anyone's surprised.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:20 PM
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25. It was beginning to look like he sold out to Big Oil ...
as so many other politicians have.

Glad to see that this might have been false.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:52 PM
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10. Well, *I* certainly view it as good news
In another of these threads, I see loads of 'sour grapes' attitude & gratuitous swipes at our President. There's no pleasing some people...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 02:56 PM
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12. We'll see . . .
At this point, my eye is so jaundiced I look like Scut Farkus. Which means that this suit is a way to pre-empt any other action against the Gulf of Mexico Killers, and the DOJ will prosecute the suit in such a non-adversarial manner (despite the initial pleadings and allegations) that these miscreants get off with something resembling the proverbial slap on the wrist. And nobody else gets to sue, because the federal action will be the people's sole remedy for the damage done.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 03:38 PM
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16. Quite likely - Let BP determine the damages & settle for 5 cents on the dollar.
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 03:39 PM by Divernan
I hope I'm wrong, but speaking as a retired trial attorney (civil cases), and based on actions by this administration for the past two years, I think you're right. Actually, at this point, the long term economic and environmental costs of this are far from determined. In some British coverage of what they describe as their coldest winter in a century, the reporters referred to changes in the Gulf Stream caused by the oil "spill", and the impact it is having and will continue to have on weather patterns.

No one can guarantee when or if the Gulf's fishing industry will recover.

Therefore, any settlement or jury award should err on the generous side, and include massive punitive damages, in line with BP's massive profits.

Meanwhile, BP can drag this legal action out for years and will take advantage of the dire financial straits of people in the Gulf area to get them to settle immediately for de minimis amounts.

Note: when the feds bailed out Big Banking, the feds paid full value (dollar for dollar) on the bad paper, whereas typically, the payoff would be the aforesaid 5 cents on the dollar.
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 04:34 PM
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19. another thing
It is my understanding (subject to better informed readers) that when the administration worked out the 20 Billion dollar slush fund to pay for the clean-up last summer, the agreement allowed BP to put 1 Billion per year into that fund (for 20 years) and that the yearly installment would come out of profits above a certain amount. The idea being that requiring the company to take a 20 Billion dollar lump sum out of it's operating capital would force the company into ch. 11.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 03:00 PM
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13. Hammer them.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 03:18 PM
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14. Why isn't Halliburton on that list?
?????????????????
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 04:53 PM
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21. Halliburton wasn't involved with owning or operating the rig or the well.
Halliburton provided some support services to BP, but the well was owned by BP and Anadarko, and the rig was operated by BP and Transocean.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:23 PM
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26. So I guess it'd be up to BP to go after Halliburton, right? nt
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:26 PM
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29. Oh, that would be sweet...

if they start eating their own by going after Halliburton!

:bounce:

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 03:24 PM
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15. Key snip: "in an effort ."
I, for one, am gratified that an effort is going to be exerted.
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 04:05 PM
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17. In a quarter century or so, it just might bear fruit...
Exxon Valdez took about twenty years to get to the SC, this will probably take longer. It isn't like TV, where they wrap it up in 60 minutes, less commercials.:shrug:

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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 04:40 PM
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20. Just what I was thinking. Many of those affected will be long gone before a settlement is reached.
Ruined lives and businesses will never see any recompense. Bravo for filing the suit, at least it will put other companies on notice.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 04:09 PM
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18. Maybe the Democratic leadership has been out of the loop on this one.
Even if they agree I'd bet the repugs quash it when they take over.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 04:53 PM
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22. The Republicans don't get to take over the Department of Justice. nt
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 05:57 PM
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24. Not for another two years and then they can settle quickly and cheaply.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 05:11 PM
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23. Ya know...
I'm so used to shitty news, I'm not sure how to react to this.

This is a good thing, right?
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:23 PM
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27. Yes good news, follow it through! K&R nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 06:33 PM
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30. Check this out PLEASE for Truth Out....
I just gave them good donation...this is something quirky...don't know what to think about it. It could use your perspective and talents...to tell us what you think. Also for Truth Out/Truth Dig...this is what Fiancial Dems are doing:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x16771
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:18 PM
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31. K&R (elevens)
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:34 PM
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32. How much did Exxon end up paying?????
Not much.

This is a crumb to the base since they gave all the money to the Rich.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 08:15 PM
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33. We...Who still hold out HOPE for OBAMA....feel it's a Good Thiing..
Others of us have "doubts" ...because of his HISTORY!

It remains to be seen how it all works out for Obama Presidency.

Will take some time for it all to "sort out."
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:41 AM
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34. I'll count that chicken when the amount of $$ actually assessed & paid by BP is hatched.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:15 PM
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35. K & R
:thumbsup:
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