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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:08 PM Original message |
44 years ago today - USS Forrestal Fire kills 134 sailors |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Didn't "Five-planes" McCain start that fire? |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Shit! Thank you!! |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Take this from a former flight deck sailor. |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. You're absolutely correct: |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. nm |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. This is so far off of the mark it would be funny if you weren't serious. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
31. No, there was no plane behind the A-4 McCain was in. There are no planes |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No, he was cleared of any wrong doing |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Who was CINCPAC at the time? |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I don't even know what the acronym means |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. CINCPAC = Commander in Chief, Pacific Fleet |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Ah, OK, Thanks for the explanation. n/t |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. sad day |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. The rocket came from an F4 and not from McCain's SkyHawk |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. people have said he did a forbidden thing and threw his engine |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. "people have said" |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. +1 on your response |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Can't tell you how much I hate being in the position of wanting to defend McCain |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Why didn't the A-4 pilots eject to safety? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I don't think 0/0 ejection seats were in Naval aircraft at the time. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. No Martin-Bakers yet? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Here's the seat used in the A-4. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Hmmm... doesn't give ejection parameters there |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. I was in from '80-89. AMS1 at the time of my medical discharge. Blew the ACL in my left knee. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I was on the John F Kennedy when it collided with the Belknap. There |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. A whole decade? Very nice. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Having served in airwing squadrons aboard several different aircraft |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. When were you on the America? Me: VS-32 '81-85 |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I'm not real sure. I think it was in 1986, with VA 46. I joined the squadron in Spain after |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Wow that's awesome. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. People from the bowels of the ship used to stop by our maint control |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Do you ever hear the sound of the radar when watching footage of flight deck ops? |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. That's been debunked years ago but some keep promoting it. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 01:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Actually, no. nt |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. I have a friend who was there. |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. By all accounts, it was as bad as it gets without the ship actually being completely destroyed |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks for posting - I remember seeing a very good film doc on this |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. National Geographics Seconds to Disaster series did an episode |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. I saw that episode |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. +1 Blame McCain for Palin, but not this. |
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Permanut (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. Thanks for posting, Dennis |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. The names of the dead ... |
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BlueCheese (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. We're not going to do to John McCain... |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. The OP doesn't say anything at all that swiftboats McCain |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. It doesn't. You are correct. However, just the mention of the Forrestal or McCain |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I'm in complete agreement. I see a similar situation regarding another naval incident.... |
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BlueCheese (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Sorry. |
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