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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:50 PM
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3 things will fix this. Taxes. Tariffs. Troops.
The gig is up. We are out of money. We're down to the credit cards and just had them cut up by the credit card company.

Now what?

Taxes. Close the loopholes. Stop the cuts. Immediately. Then RAISE them.
Tariffs. Now.
Troops. Bring them ALL home. There is NOTHING we can do anywhere else in the world with our country in shambles.

Then, HEALTHCARE FOR ALL. Bust the insurance cartel. Nationalize the oil. Bust the oil cartels.

ANY corporation receiving tax breaks that is shipping jobs overseas---TARIFFS and no tax breaks.

Let's rebuild OUR country and quit worrying about everyone else's.

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:51 PM
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1. YES! AND YES! TARIFFS, TAX (THE RICH) AND CUT BY HALF OR MORE OUR MILITARY
Instant solution.

But it is not being done. It's not even being ATTEMPTED.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:57 PM
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2. Makes too much sense, would even work, won't be considered. n/t
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:06 PM
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3. ditto
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:09 PM
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4. yes Yes YES
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Pigheaded Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:26 PM
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6. Raise taxes on anything over $100K
Bring troops home today.

Not sure about tariffs, will have to cogitate some more on that one.

PH
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:24 PM
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5. You can't nationalize oil.
You would have to change the constitution first, it has protections in it that actually were written for people who think like you.
Also, health care for all means free for easily 25-30% of the country. Will cost trillions. As you said we are out of money, so that is off the table for now.
Tariffs have unintended consequences. You lose employment on exported products - we are trying to increase employment, not decrease.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:32 PM
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7. Where? Please show me where the Constitution prevents us from
taking back something the people already own.
I'll be waiting for the specifics. Thanks in advance.

The CBO has already stated that healthcare for all would actually save money--so I will be also waiting on your proof of that.

Also--on tariffs...we are importing much more than we are exporting. But I am going to give the benefit of doubt that you don't realize by raising tariffs...it would actually be cheaper for us to start manufacturing HERE again...thus creating jobs--not lose them.

Your entire post is filled with RW arguments and framing. I am going to assume that is just because of ignorance.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:35 PM
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8. Huh?
health care for all means free for easily 25-30% of the country. Will cost trillions.

Not by a long shot. A national plan would be a single-payer system that is funded by general income tax revenues. Tax rates go up to cover it, but the increase would be less than the premiums charged by the for-profit insurance companies today, so it would be a net gain for everyone (except the billionaire CEO's of the private insurance companies.)

Tariffs have unintended consequences. You lose employment on exported products - we are trying to increase employment, not decrease.

Ridiculous. Tariffs level the playing field so that it is no longer economically advantageous to export manufacturing to countries with no labor or environmental laws. How you get to "lose employment on exported products" and "decrease" employment is a non sequitur. Tariffs are the very thing that we should have. We're alone in having no import tariffs and we're living with the disastrous results.
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