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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:32 PM
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Did the GOP Steal the Wisconsin Recall Elections? A True Vote Analysis
http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/did-the-gop-steal-the-wisconsin-recall-elections-a-true-vote-analysis/

Did the GOP Steal the Wisconsin Recall Elections? A True Vote Analysis

Aug. 11, 2011

Richard Charnin

http://richardcharnin.com/WIRecallFraud.htm

In a pre-election post, I indicated that only election fraud could keep the Democrats from winning three of the six GOP recall elections. They won two. This post-election analysis indicates that they did much better than that. They may very well have won all six.

The Democrats were highly motivated to win the Senate based on Walker policies, but the GOP had the advantage of massive funding – especially in District 8. The problem is to determine the voter turnout rates and voter preferences required to match the recorded vote shares.

The analysis is based on the Wisconsin Recall True Vote Model.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:40 PM
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1. K&R
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:44 PM
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2. I think the WI vote story is not over - by a long shot
There is some deep Republicon shitdiaperload doo doo went down and it gonna get barfed up into pubic view sooner or later
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:48 PM
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3. Um....there's an awful lot of number pulled out of the ass in this analysis.
Plus this little problem: "Obama won all six districts in 2008."

No, he didn't.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:16 PM
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4. That seems to be the new wing nut tactic deny that those were republican strong holds
I been seeing it a lot out in wing nut land.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:23 PM
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5. Mathsturbation is Mr. Charnin's trademark
He panders to an audience of frightened, not quite rational people.

Few of us have enough knowledge of statistical analyisis to see his hackneyed snow jobs for what they are. His true goal is to cash in on gullibility, just like any other charlatan.

Without actual evidence of fraud, posts linking to his work look a lot like blogspam.
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Bill59 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 10:54 PM
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10. Slackmaster you are a wanna be troll- Nothing more.
Charnin has plenty of credibility. You, on the other hand have
none. 

In recent years Charnin's provided some of the most
provocative and telling work on election theft in the nation
at <www.richardcharnin.com>.  And everyone who cares
about the subject should check out his work.

As for money, Charnin does his work out of patriotism, and
could likely buy you several times over, troll.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:48 PM
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9. And why use 2008 general election data rather than 2010, or even SC race from April?
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 08:48 PM by PeaceNikki
Oh right, his argument would fall on its dumb face.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:35 PM
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6. ...qqq...
:eyes: :beer:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:38 PM
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7. Yes there is voter fraud in the US
Yes it will continue as long as we really do not admit it exists, BUT....

"Obama won all six districts in 2008. Therefore assuming a) an equal percentage turnout of Obama and McCain voters in the recalls and b) no changes in voter preference, the Democrats would win all six elections (see below). But the GOP won four. Therefore there had to be a higher turnout rate of McCain voters than Obama voters and/or a net defection of Obama voters to the GOP. It’s simple math.

No those were not won by Obama. They are deep red. I have my doubts, expressed yesterday about ONE of the elections... but all six? No...

And that one may or may not have happened, but when ones and zeroes are involved, proving it would be very hard.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:40 PM
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8. Wow, So much misinformation it makes your head spin!!
:crazy:

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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 08:23 AM
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11. Here is another analysis that shows Obama won all 6 recall districts.
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 08:24 AM by eowyn_of_rohan
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjAk1JUWDMyRdGUySGVQOW5BQWxZYWJ1TDJaVXJtNnc&hl=en_US#gid=11

I don't understand how to read these things, but posting for those who do!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 08:26 AM
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12. Waiting for the Shoe of Corruption (R) to drop


Patiently.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 01:55 PM
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13. Thanks for your patience ;)
I am finding it more difficult, myself...
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 02:00 PM
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14. Actually, I am about 99.9856123% sure they REALLY won 7 of the races!
The lack of a seventh race also attributable to voter fraud!
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