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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 10:05 PM
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"America’s debt is not its biggest problem" by Bill Gross of All People
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 10:06 PM by TomCADem
Bill Gross is one of the founders of bond mutuak fund PIMCO. He is often cited as an authority on the impact of the growing debt on interest rates. Yet, here is arguing for more stimulus spending in the short term!

It would be great if the corporate media would ask Republicans about Bill Gross's comments. Afterall, are these candidates going to say that they know more about bond pricing and interest rates than Bill Gross?

Let me put it this way. Bill Gross is hardly a liberal, yet here he is pushing for more stimulus and spending.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/americas-debt-is-not-its-biggest-problem/2011/08/10/gIQAgYvE7I_story.html


It is critical for politicians and investors alike to distinguish between cause and effect, disease and symptom. Washington has been operating the past few months under the assumption that the United States and our euro-zone economic trading partners are experiencing a debt crisis that must be resolved by exorcising excessive spending in the near term. To Republicans, and even many co-opted Democrats, the debate starts with spending cuts and how much must be done to appease voters and the markets, both now and in November, when the “Gang of Twelve” committee that resulted from the debt-ceiling deal potentially follows through with its mandate.

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But while our debt crisis is real and promises to grow to Frankenstein proportions in future years, debt is not the disease — it is a symptom. Lack of aggregate demand or, to put it simply, insufficient consumption and investment is the disease. Debt has been simply an abused sovereign and private market antidote to sustain it. We and our global market competitors are and have been experiencing a lack of aggregate demand for several decades. It is now only visibly coming to a head, as the magic elixir of leverage is drained and exhausted.

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The debt crisis as it crests ultimately gives way to these growth-inhibiting, spending-contractionary secular forces. Having run up our credit card to keep on spending, we have reached market-enforced limits that force deleveraging. It is not the debt, however, but the lack of global aggregate demand that is at the heart of the crisis. As the entire world strives to put its own people to work before other nations do, policymakers constructively lower interest rates and delay sovereign, corporate and household defaults to provide breathing room. Fiscally, however, an anti-Keynesian, budget-balancing immediacy imparts a constrictive noose around whatever demand remains alive and kicking. Washington hassles over debt ceilings instead of job creation in the mistaken belief that a balanced budget will produce a balanced economy. It will not.

The president and Congress must recognize that an AA-plus country, to remain AA-plus, must focus on growth, not debt reduction, in the short term. We have a debt problem — but primarily a crisis of aggregate demand. A 21st-century Keynes would have recognized this and sounded the alarm, pointing out that policymakers from a fiscal perspective are pointing us toward recession and the destructive 1930s instead of a low-growth but still breathing U.S. economy of the 21st century.

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 10:50 PM
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1. Many Business types on Business Programming are saying
we have to be careful about cuts and we could
use stimulus in the short run. Even C. Romer and
L. Sommers (former Economic Advisors.) have suggested
the same recently.

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 11:16 PM
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2. This isn't liberal vs conservative, it is economist vs lawyer playing politician
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 11:23 PM by Ruby the Liberal
Find me ONE credible economist who (i) thinks this debt deal was a good thing or (ii) is advocating for tax cuts and 'entitlement' cuts in this economy.

Hell, even Randian sycophant Alan Greenspan said this is fucked up (and admitted his world view of 40+ years was "wrong and flawed").

Edit: ps - this isn't new. Gross has been net short US Treasuries since April.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 11:21 PM
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3. Greenspan 2008: My ideology of the economy was flawed
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 11:21 PM by Ruby the Liberal
Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. Sad it took you 40 years to figure that out.

Link: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ah5qh9Up4rIg
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:37 AM
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4. for several decades? really?
the thing that bothers me a little bit about this, is the busy-work. The economy needs to sell crap so that people can get jobs that they hate so they can have money to buy crap. If enough crap isn't sold, then people won't have jobs. But if we have what we need, then why worry about the demand for crap? Let's just divide the work up more so that we all work ten hour weeks. Then there's plenty of work for everybody, and everybody has an income. A slightly lower income, but enough to get by, just not enough to spend money on crap.
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