Ron Paul took a little detour from the "liberty" subject to tell a gory abortion story...

[sfpcjock]

Trust me, it was gross.(1)

Then he got right back into saying "liberty comes from God, not from the government". Standing ovation time for Ron! Really??

Maybe he just needs to tell that to the people in Somalia? "You are free, people of Somalia. Because God says so", LMAO

Here's the video:

http://www.ronpaul.com/


1. Paul was studying to be an OBGYN and he saw a caesarian section where the baby was "put in a corner to die, and no one in the room even noticed". WTF?

[musette_sf]

1. K&R because this is my #1 problem with R Paul:

He considers women second class citizens. Anyone who thinks that prenatal development at the stage of the size of a bean, or less, is anything more than potential - and deems it to be a "person" with not only equal, but MORE rights than an actual living, breathing woman - is a batshit crazy sexist pig, not a servant of ALL the people.

[Angry Dragon]

2. God says, "Let the people do what they want, I will sort it out later"

In response to your last sentence:
So he admits to being an accomplish to murder??

[ellenfl]

3. that would be an 'accomplice' to murder and i think he lies. eom

[Angry Dragon]

4. thank you for the correction

:hi: :hi:

[Kalidurga]

5. I am not a doctor but...

that sounds like total bullocks. It is my understanding that a C section is done to save the life of the mother and child it isn't a form of abortion. A C section would lead to heroic measures to save the baby I would think. But, perhaps they are done occasionally as an abortion measure if for some reason the health of the mother is at...wait a minute wouldn't they still use heroic measures to save the baby if their were no other health concerns besides prematurity?

Ack, just spent several minutes trying to find out about C section abortions and can't find a reputable site that has any information.

[ellenfl]

8. i missed that distinction . . . no, abortions aren't done as

c-sections. like i said, he lies.

ellen fl

[TalkingDog]

6. I never got the whole: "libertarians" against ... X

X = abortion, gay rights, civil rights....

I mean libertarianism supposedly means that the government stays OUT of your personal business.

[ellenfl]

7. exactly. eom

[Cleita]

9. He's lying for sensationalism.

There are babies born that have no chance of life because they have organs missing and there is no way to fix the problem. They die soon after being either born or taken out of the womb by caesarion. They can't live under any circumstances and if he actually went to medical school he would know that.

[JHB]

10. That would have been when? circa 1960?

Can you give the time in the video where he talks about this, for those of us who don't care to sit through the whole thing?

Assuming for the moment that he's not just lying (and if anyone complains if you suggest he's lying, remind them that he's a politician whose lips are moving):

What were the details of this case? Were there complications he may not have been fully aware of or just doesn't remember (him being a neophyte at the time)? Did he know anything about the patient history, or was he just on hand to observe a procedure and didn't know anything else?

Even if one supposes it was an "elective" pregnancy termination, let's look at the conditions back then: little access to birth control, overwhelliming social stigma against having a baby without proper authorization (marraige, even if the father was a rapist or just a bum), no legal access to abortion at an earlier stage...

In other words, all the conditions the "pro-life" people want to go back to. So Paul wants to oppose something by returning us to the very conditions that encourage it.