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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:18 PM
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Watching Bachmann on MTP; she truly is a clueless dolt.
As ignorant as anyone I have ever heard in politics...and that's saying a lot.

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:19 PM
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1. I'm sure David Gregory made it
as softball as possible for her, though.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:21 PM
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2. That's what his owners expect
n/t
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:21 PM
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6. Well, as my Korean ex-wife likes to say, "Kitty, kitty"
David Gregory is a clueless dolt, too.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:29 PM
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9. True...he pretends he's going to go tough, then let's her repeat the meme unchallenged.
Gregory will at first respond to her bat-shitness by saying "but you said...let's show the quote..." and reads one of her stupid remarks. Wow, it seemed like he's going to force her to explain herself! Nope. Just lather, rinse, repeat. More bat-shit crazy talk, then Gregory moves on to her next crazy talking point, no further explanation needed.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 02:07 PM
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20. It's like he has a script. Ask this, get response, counter with that, move on to
next question.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:21 PM
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3. She tries to portray herself as an economist.
Clueless.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 02:10 PM
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21. just like most economists
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 02:21 PM
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23. So-called 'oil analysts' are also a waste of oxygen.
As soon as we heard "gas prices will go down another $.50 soon" they went up $.35. When they were saying "It's going to $6 a gallon!1!!1" it dropped $.50.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:21 PM
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4. She's a complete nut...
..but she stays on message extremely well.

Bachmann is obviously a much stronger candidate in the Republican primaries than many counted on.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:27 PM
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7. We see through her, but one of my concerns is many Americans won't. Too many fall for
the sound bites and slick propaganda. She does do a good job IMO of staying on message and that's what makes her even more dangerous. The faithful will fall for her. Also, Ed Rollins seems to be giving to her pretty good coaching.

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:30 PM
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10. It's not what you say
it's how you say it. She speaks with a certain confidence and authority that gives people who know very little the impression that she knows what she is talking about.

Hopefully, she'll be forced to answer some tough questions and actully defend her positions instead of just rattling off her message unchallenged.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:37 PM
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17. Yes, she does speak with a certain confidence and authority, when her
cage is rattled she remains unshaken, she speaks from a delusional state IMO, but truly believes those delusions, making her particularly dangerous IMO.

Exactly as you said, "It's not what you say it's how you say it." Many will fall for this IMO thinking she really knows her sh**. If the economy were not so bad she wouldn't have a chance IMO, but this economy gives one some excellent talking points.


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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:40 PM
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18. I agree...
Bachmann seems very confident, stays on message and seems fairly unflappable in interviews.

Perry, as dim as he may be, has some of those qualities as well. Both come across as extremely confident in their wrong headed policy positions, both project strength, both know how to stay on message. Looks like it is going to be a battle between Bachmann and Perry for who gets to be the anti-Romney.

I still think the Republican ticket is going to be Perry/Rubio. Bachmann has done well, but she's still just a wacky congresswoman with no actual accomplishments. Perry, I think, is the stronger of the 2 candidates - and Rubio will be added to the ticket to win Florida and make inroads into the Hispanic vote.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:30 PM
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11. delete
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 01:30 PM by Mz Pip
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:21 PM
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5. That makes her very appealing to a large portion of the voting
constituency. nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:31 PM
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12. Exactly, she will appeal to many Americans 'cause she's just like them. Bush
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 01:39 PM by RKP5637
wasn't bad enough for some Americans, they want more and worse. Ed Rollins has this down to a science. He knows exactly how stupid many Americans are and what they will fall for and vote for. She's exactly the tool/front they need.

Well said!!!


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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:31 PM
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13. Particularly that portion that doesn't read or think. A large portion indeed.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:31 PM
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14. Took the words right off my fingertips..
Almost verbatim what I was going to write.

:hi:

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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:27 PM
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8. she doesnt strike me as being stupid
but she does strike me as being wicked with her embrace of all things retrograde (families, churches, subjecting vulnerable gay teenagers to corrective torment for money, etc)
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:32 PM
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15. Depends upon your idea of stupid is.
Being able to clearly articulate stupid ideas doesn't make the ideas any less stupid. Sarah Palin, now THERE is some serious stupid. Bachmann presents herself as far more intelligent than Palin, but her ideas are still based in flat-earth territory.
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mysuzuki2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:46 PM
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25. stupid is genetic and can be overlooked,
ignorance is chosen and is unforgivable. Bachmann is ignorance personified.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:33 PM
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16. Ignorant and dishonest -
a toxic combination
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 01:54 PM
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19. Plus she stays on target with authoritative messaging, makes the brew even
more toxic. We have a lot of lambs in the US today and lemmings ready to jump off a cliff, not knowing any better.

Frankly, many Americans scare the sh** out of me when it comes to their lack of knowledge about where some of these people are coming from and where they want to take the US. Countries falter and fail, or become hostage to some type of authoritarian government.

Today, some want an authoritative theocracy with fascism of sorts blended in. America is no exception, there is no reason to believe America can't falter, and it's so sad to see the underpinnings of this possibly happening.

First thing a Bachmann or Perry presidency would do is break down the church/state boundaries even more. That would then give to them a ready implementation to leverage off the ever faithful programming to bring us into some form of a theocratic dystopia ushering in their rapture.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:34 PM
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24. Excellent post
These morons would take us back to feudalism without batting an eyelid.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 02:16 PM
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22. maybe afterwards they'll dance...nt
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:51 PM
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26. Amen, but she does speak in complete sentence and
that makes her seem to be smart to those who aren't listening to the content.
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