Anderson Cooper just announced that it is $2 1/2 million being offered for the capture or

[applegrove]

killing of Qadaffi. It has gone up.

[MADem]

1. I'll bet there are a lot of people in coffee shops in Tripoli and elsewhere,

watching CNNI, and thinking "Damn, I could do a lotta good for me and mine with that kind of cash."

[customerserviceguy]

2. That didn't exactly work with bin Laden, did it? n/t

[applegrove]

3. No it did not. Those psychopaths sure know who to surround themselves with. That is true.

[Incitatus]

11. This situation is a little different.

Gadaffi isn't the leader of a fundamentalist organization with brainwashed followers. People around Gadaffi may not have the same level of loyalty. Time will tell.

[customerserviceguy]

33. While it's always good to be respected and loved

if you're a megalomaniac, most of them will settle for being feared. I suspect that Khadaffy Duck has done a good job of instilling that. Clearly, there are those out there who would be willing to assassinate anyone who tried to collect a reward.

[unkachuck]

4. "...$2 1/2 million being offered for the capture or killing of Qadaffi..."

....hey Maw, "Where's my shotgun?"

[Distant Observer]

5. How civilized.

[tabatha]

8. How civilized? you ask. Take your blinkers off.

A Libyan resident, emails: "I'm in a small village just
outside Tripoli and the Libyan security secret service (mostly women)
have just killed, in cold blood, 25 young men, between the ages of 11
and 17 for waving anti-Gaddafi flags. They tied them up, blindfolded
them, then shot them in the back of the head. I strongly believe Gaddafi
is very close by as his female bodyguards are here killing people who
they deem a threat to his leadership."

[sudopod]

10. At least they stayed away from the incubators.

lol

[tabatha]

16. Over 13,000 killed, 75,000 people released from prison.

And you repeat the stupid, childish, totally unrelated "incubators".

...................................................

Even the residents of Zimbabwe get it. Maybe you should go live there for a while.

Bulawayo, August 22,2011—-The mainstream Movement for Democratic Change (MDC-T) youths led by Prime Minister Tsvangirai said
they will not allow ousted Libyan leader Colonel Moammar Gadhafi to settle in Zimbabwe adding that he is a criminal who should be hanged. Aljazeera reported this morning that there is a possibility that Gadhafi will settle in Zimbabwe or Angola.However speaking to Radio VOP Clifford Hlatswayo the spokesperson for MDC-T youth assembly said they are not going to allow another dictator to settle in Zimbabwe adding that the country is already under dictatorship.“We will not allow that. He was rejected, dejected, defeated and he is a criminal. He has caused harm to his own people, killing them because of power. We will not tolerate such nonsense. We are already occupied by one dictator here in Zimbabwe. Hlatswayo said the MDC-T is greatly shocked by such reports; saying they are detrimental to peace and security in Zimbabwe. “Gadhafi is a security threat. We don’t want him. Zimbabwe is not a haven for criminals let him stay in his own country and face the music.”

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Even Desmond Tutu gets it.

“If Africa’s leaders held their peers to account there would be no need for the people of Libya to suffer human rights violations,” said founder of the Desmond Tutu Peace Centre, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu. “And there would be no need for United Nations sanctioned military interventions in Libya.

“Instead, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has for more than 40 years honed his skills in the art of resource management to win friends and influence people. And as a result, Africa seems powerless to stop him.

“The scenes of brutality being meted out with sophisticated weaponry by Libyan security forces against their own civilian population make God weep. With every blow they strike, each human rights abuse they perpetrate, they bring shame on Africa,” Archbishop Tutu said.

“As South Africans, we are acutely conscious of the value of human rights and democracy. We prosecuted a noble struggle against a morally corrupt and brutal apartheid regime, emerging as an example to the world in the fields of peaceful settlement, peacekeeping and reconciliation.

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Even foreign correspondents get it

2137: Veteran BBC foreign correspondent Kate Adie remembers her visits to Libya. "You heard whispers, you heard rumours. Years ago, the Italian ambassador told me he had complained of the screams they could hear overnight. He said that they found rubbish skips with limbs in them in the morning. That's the kind of place it was."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14610722

[sudopod]

31. I'm not saying Gaddhafi's reign wasn't (and isn't) terrible.

I'm saying that people are being manipulated into having positive feelings for a war that isn't necessarily the Manichean epic battle of good versus evil that the war in Libya is being made out to be.

Don't you find it suspicious? Who is obsessing over the Democratic Republic of Congo, for example? Why aren't they worthy of being part of the White Man's Burden NATO's crusade for freedom? Gaddhafi is a right bastard, but he isn't even in the top ten. Why does he get such special treatment, his people our loving devotion?

"OH, we had to save Benghazi!" Bull. Shit. Millions have died in the DRC in this century's very own Holocaust, and around 45,000 people die there each and every month, more than in this whole charade that has kept some folks occupied for the better part of a year, but you don't hear about that on the nightly news. I haven't heard any stirring speeches about how we're going to free the fuck out of the Congolese. There haven't been breathless tweets about Congolese refugees fleeing from their homes in terror, about whole regions being depopulated, about poverty and disease more akin to an enormous god damned concentration camp than something you would expect to see in the twenty-first century, almost half a century after men first walked on another world.

But no, really, lets all post some more threads about how awesome we are for kicking over some tin-pot dictators shit-can of a fiefdom and sing God Bless America one more time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War

[EFerrari]

29. Take yours off. Becoming what you fight is a defeat

not a victory.

[tabatha]

13. Can you really support this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14610722

[sudopod]

32. Clearly everyone who questions the war machine

is some sort of baby-raping Nazi deviant. It's in the Bible!

[undeterred]

6. Dead or alive?

on dry ice?

[Distant Observer]

7. Offered by a generous Benghazi businessman, no less. How nice.

[tabatha]

9. Yes, how nice.

A Libyan resident, emails: "I'm in a small village just
outside Tripoli and the Libyan security secret service (mostly women)
have just killed, in cold blood, 25 young men, between the ages of 11
and 17 for waving anti-Gaddafi flags. They tied them up, blindfolded
them, then shot them in the back of the head. I strongly believe Gaddafi
is very close by as his female bodyguards are here killing people who
they deem a threat to his leadership."

[Distant Observer]

14. Wow, just like they just massacred all those Journalist

We just love to demonize our enemies to find justification for our own killings don't we. Even if it is some random email
from the same people who assassinate their own, and constantly lie ("we captured Seif Gaddafi -- dressed as a woman")

[tabatha]

17. You never answer with specifics.

Just random rambling.

[Distant Observer]

22. Answer what question. Do I like imperialist war and killing ? No I don't.

[tabatha]

26. The bodies of 17 rebels killed Tuesday by Gadhafi forces

The bodies of 17 rebels killed Tuesday by Gadhafi forces near the longtime leader's compound were taken Wednesday to a hospital in eastern Tripoli, a doctor there told CNN.

Dr. Mohammed Rashed said the victims had been executed. Rashed, a Libyan who has worked as a consultant in Britain for 25 years, said he was volunteering with a medical group at a Tripoli hospital when a patient showed up Wednesday seeking treatment for a leg wound.

The patient told Rashed that he was one of 25 people who had been abducted from their homes by Gadhafi forces, taken to a military barracks near Gadhafi's compound and accused of complicity with the rebels.

As the Gadhafi forces began to execute them, rebel forces began storming Bab al-Azizia, he said. The resulting confusion gave some of the captives the chance to escape, he said.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/24/live-blog-gadhafi-releases-taped-message/

There is NO imperialism about the NATO forces. If you do not support killing, then you should support an effort to stop the killing. Gaddafi was more of an imperialist (42 years) than NATO.

http://yansoon.net/2011/08/23/gaddafi-the-closet-imperialist/

[Distant Observer]

27. How many lies have to be proved before you stop believing every propaganda tweet??

[EFerrari]

30. People get addicted to their atrocity narratives

just as some people get addicted to porn.

[indurancevile]

15. benghazi businessmen have millions to give away? wow, i thought they were all being oppressed &

genocided.

[tabatha]

18. How does one answer such a dumb statement,

Do some research.

[Distant Observer]

20. Research shows that much of the "rebellion" is about "businesmen" paying kids to kill other kids

It's just business.

[indurancevile]

21. you means yours? yeah, you should.

[provis99]

19. maybe a buddy of Kadaffy's who turned against him.

[Distant Observer]

23. I guess we are still promoting the propaganda that the super wealthy Libyans were just Gaddafi buds

Of course that was always false. As in Venezuela there was always the wealthy Royalist business class that supported opposition to crazy Gaddafi's "socialist" welfare policies.

[joshcryer]

25. Venezuela has always had a constitutional right to private property. Libya...

...not so much. Libya only legalized private businesses a few years ago, and even then, didn't go nearly far enough. They were intending to give everyone a share of the oil profits and let them start their own businesses (Saif-reformer plan), but it never materialized.

It is partially why the Libyan people revolted. It is class war in its purest sense.

[joshcryer]

24. Not "maybe," almost certainly. Gaddafi's country illegalized privite businesses...

...until a few years ago, there's no way you become a millionaire overnight unless you're in the Gaddafi inner circle in Libya.

[DCKit]

12. They're not mentally deficient. We didn't pay off on Osama or Saddam either.

Our word is worth diddly.

It's a Nigerian scam email.

[joshcryer]

28. "We" are not the ones offering the reward.

Are "we"?