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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 11:36 PM
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The GOP field is a great gift to President Obama
Quotes just from TODAY:


Ron Paul: "We don't need FEMA"

Rick Perry: "We've seen FEMA not perform to the level, from time to time. They can be slow, they can be bureaucratic."



The only sane candidate the GOP has is unelectable in his own primary (Huntsman).

The only OTHER non-whack job in the GOP field (Romney) has massive flip-flop issues and, like Huntsman, won't be able to get elected in a GOP primary because of his religious affiliation.


The GOP clown car is the best thing that ever happened to the Obama '12 campaign.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 11:39 PM
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1. It may well be one of the saving graces of next year's election
I don't honestly believe that they will be able to nominate anybody reasonably sane like Huntsman over the insane objections of the teabaggers. I just don't see it happening IMHO. 2016 maybe. 2012? I strongly doubt it. :shrug:
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 11:45 PM
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4. They aren't going to learn anything by 2016...
they just won't they have been this way since about the mid 80's maybe longer and they have won some elections and they believe that they have some kind of market on morality.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:38 AM
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10. They have come to believe that they "own" the WH
Edited on Sun Aug-28-11 12:41 AM by Proud Liberal Dem
That's why whenever a Democrat manages to win the WH, they get so incensed and furiously attempt to delegitimize whoever is in office because (they believe) a Democrat shouldn't have actually been allowed to beat their candidate unless the election was somehow rigged in their favor (i.e. ACORN). "I don't lose! I never lose!"

Plus, I've noticed that Republicans believe they always have a mandate to do whatever they want no matter what their margin of victory whenever they get elected to office. Even though the only reason that Bush got into the WH in 2001 was that SCOTUS intervened, Bush governed as though he had actually won the popular vote and by a comfortable margin in the EC and then he and the GOP used 9/11 to push through a much more radical agenda that would never have passed under different circumstances. When he won "re-election" in 2004, he won by a slim margin and then decided that he had a mandate ("political capital") to dismantle social security. :banghead:

Of course, to Republicans, Democrats NEVER have a mandate to do what they were elected to do no matter how much they actually win by. They swept the GOP out of power in 2006 largely because of criticism of Bush's handling of Iraq but Bush never entertained nor accepted any changes in his overall policy in Iraq and, in fact, doubled down on his original policy ("the surge") and the GOP blocked any attempts to constrain him even though, arguably, that was arguably major reason for voting the Democrats back into power. The Democrats then boosted their congressional majority in 2008 (even briefly obtaining a technical supermajority) AND elected Barack Obama POTUS and the GOP refused to recognize Obama as a legitimate POTUS ("birthgate") and used every parliamentary maneuver at their disposal to thwart significant progress in Congress from 2009-2010. With the House GOP teabaggers now running the House, they insist every day that what the American people really want are spending cuts and deficit reduction as opposed to jobs, as well as for them to act as a "vice" on President Obama to keep him from accomplishing anything that would make him appear successful in time for the 2012 election even though their strategy is going to end up hurting everybody in the end. :puke:

As to your original point, it will be interesting to see what happens to the GOP if and when they double-down on "teh crazy" and lose next year. Will enough of the so-called "moderates" and establishment types finally get completely sick of the whackos and figure out some way to take back their party or will the whackos hold on and double down and move even further off the cliff and consign themselves to permanent "fringe" status? :shrug:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 11:42 PM
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2. Gift, Hell, Sir --- Sole And Only Hope, More Like....
The country can be fortunate, provided it displays collectively a modicum of sense....

"On November 4, 2004, America looked into the abyss, and said '...wonder what's down there?'"
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:14 AM
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7. LOL !!! - You Rock, Sir !!!
:yourock:

:bounce:

:D

:hi:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:33 AM
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9. Heh.
No kidding.
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Kath1 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 11:43 PM
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3. They Are Pathetic
Pathetic. All of them are are terrible on women's rights. I can't wait for the Obama re-election.
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CelticThunder Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:10 AM
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5. Well, his own record sure isn't.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:12 AM
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6. a FAIR evaluation of his record shows many successes AND many disappointments

But far more successes than he is given credit for.
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CelticThunder Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 03:59 PM
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14. Has he ok'd the tar sands pipeline yet?
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:15 AM
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8. I’m still waiting for
the other shoe to drop. The shoe named Jeb.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:47 AM
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11. I like to think that even most conservatives have had enough of the Bush Dynasty.
I really don't see Jeb gaining traction.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 12:50 AM
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12. What are the current odds that he's going to jump in?
The conventional wisdom is that it would be too early for another "Bush" to jump into another Presidential race and that the earliest IMHO he would be viable would be in 2016. However, I recognize that there is nothing "conventional" about the times we live in. Why would Jeb be particularly dangerous? I actually was a bit worried about Perry jumping into the race. After getting to see him in action over the past two weeks, I have my doubts as to whether or not he would be all that threatening to President Obama. Jeb IMHO would have too much "Bush" baggage (and not enough distance from his brother's failures) not to mention his controversial actions regarding Schiavo when he was Governor of Florida. :shrug:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 01:28 AM
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13. And this Presidency is a great gift to the GOP
What's your point?
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