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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:21 PM
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"It's all the Republicans' fault! Therefore, we have to keep compromising with them!"
Will this cognitive dissonance keep plaguing the current administration all the way through the election?

:shrug:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:23 PM
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1. Yep yep.
And from this the American electorate can only conclude that this administration is either weak or stupid.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:30 PM
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3. Corrupt is my guess.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:32 PM
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4. True. n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:36 PM
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24. he wants to be with them and they will never let him in the clubhouse
no matter how many of us he sells out.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:26 PM
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2. Nice quote..
that was never uttered by anyone but you.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:33 PM
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6. You're right. They rarely do the first part. n/t
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:35 PM
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7. your usual contribution to the discourse, I see!
:thumbsup:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:39 PM
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8. Fabricated quotes are the surest way to get to the Greatest Page
these days.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:47 PM
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9. this is a paraphrase. Fabrication would attribute it to someone, like Russ Feingold or whoever
n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:03 PM
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10. It's the ultimate form of "some people say".
As in, I say, so I'm quoting myself dammit.

And yes "some people say" is an actual quote by lots of pundits, so I can quote it.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:11 PM
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11. Doesn't matter. Their actions speak it loud and clear; with or without quotes. n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:18 PM
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12. Fine, do you have one actual quote that expresses the accusation the OP falsely quoted?
If it's "loud and clear" you should have no problem coming up with just one.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:34 PM
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13. The falseness is yours; this is obviously a paraphrase, and not an attributed quote
As you well know.

but this is what you chose to do, in lieu of conversation
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:56 PM
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15. Who are you paraphrasing?
And you don't put quotes around a paraphrase. Quote marks were invented to denote actual quotes from actual people.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 03:09 PM
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20. As an entirely non-questioning supporter of this admin, surely you trust Chicago?
Here's the Chicago Manual of Style:

"The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition,<8> acknowledges this type of use but cautions against overuse in section 7.58, “Quotation marks are often used to alert readers that a term is used in a nonstandard, ironic, or other special sense <…> They imply ‘This is not my term,’...."
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 03:18 PM
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22. I learned basic English in grade school.
PARAPHRASE

To paraphrase means to say something another way. When you paraphrase a source, you relate the ideas and information of your source, but the wording and organization of information are your own, not those of the source.
A research paper should not consist of a long string of word-for-word quotations from sources; like any other paper, it should represent your own style and your own understanding of your material. Except in situations where direct quotation is specifically called for (see above), most information from sources should ordinarily be paraphrased.
The best way to write a smooth paraphrase is to first fully understand the content of the passage that you are paraphrasing. Then without looking at it, write its information down in your own words. When you have finished your paraphrase, you should compare it to the original for accuracy of information and any unintended borrowing of phrases and sentences.
Remember that paraphrases, like direct quotations, must be cited according to a standard documentation style, most often MLA, APA, or Chicago Manual of Style guidelines.

http://rwc.hunter.cuny.edu/reading-writing/on-line/qpp.html

Big ol' fail for you. You still haven't cited anyone, because you can't. You just wrote some words and slapped quote marks around them, then claimed it represents "cognitive dissonance".
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 03:29 PM
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23. But apparently not how to engage in actual conversation?
More from Chicago:

"People also use quotation marks in this way to:

distance the writer from the terminology in question so as not to be associated with it, for example, to indicate that a quoted word is not official terminology, or that a quoted phrase presupposes things that the author does not necessarily agree with

indicate special terminology that should be identified for accuracy’s sake as someone else’s terminology, for example if a term (particularly a controversial term) pre-dates the writer or represents the views of someone else, perhaps without judgement (contrast this neutrally-distancing quoting to the negative use of scare quotes)..."

etc.

now, as far as what the OP paraphrases/satirizes/synthesizes, can you speak to that? No?
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:34 PM
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14. I said ACTIONS speak louder than words.
It's his ACTIONS, not any quote, that proves how he feels.

Why do I feel like I already wrote this?

:eyes:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 03:02 PM
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19. Okay, point out a specific action that makes this statement true.
It's all the Republicans' fault! Therefore, we have to keep compromising with them!

Don't forget to address the exclamation points on both parts of the "paraphrase", they indicate strong feelings or high volume(shouting) in what Obama apparently "feels" according to you and the OP.



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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:58 PM
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25. So how was it living under that rock for the last two years? (nt)
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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:32 PM
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5. The left just doesn't make as much noise...
...as the right.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:59 PM
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17. The left makes noise, then the paid trolls rush in and tell the left
to stfu...which most will.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:58 PM
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16. Perfectly synopsized!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:59 PM
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18. It's the voters' fault for putting Republicans in
and presumably a liberal is against Republicans winning. Therefore a liberal gets further by blaming Republicans rather than Democrats.

Basic logic is eluding you in your zeal to give Rs a pass and blame it all on Dems.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 03:10 PM
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21. Oh that's right -- plus this President is an entirely powerless great leader!
I forgot about that part of it...
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