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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:01 PM
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Retiring in Mexico?
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:03 PM
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1. Merida IS GREAT. (NT)
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:14 PM
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2. I have been to Mexico on several occasions.... Where would the best place
be to retire there?
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:40 PM
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4. Well, my choices are
Merida, Oaxaca, Morelia or Ajijic/Lake Chapala. Reasons include considering cost, climate, medical, scenery, things to do and having a sizable amount of American and Canadian expats.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:31 AM
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7. Oaxaca rocks, I lived on the coast for several winters.
:thumbsup:
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 04:44 AM
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10. Nearly a century of left-wing rule probably helped quite a bit. =) nt
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:49 AM
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12. You need to take a history class.
1900-1910: dictator
1911-1920: Revolutionary leaders of various persuasions (including a maniacal, murderous general)
1921-1934: Sonoran dynasty, land to the wealthy oligarchs, stripped the power of the Church (okay, I guess some say that's left wing),
1934-1940: Populism, land redistribution, privatization of oil reserves, creation of credit institutions for small farmers. Definitely leftist.
1940-1970: swings right, including a 1968 massacre of student protesters
1970-1976: neo-liberalism (sort of leftist)
1976-Present: desperation as the economy tanked, rose, and tanked again. Mostly moderate to right. The last true leftist candidate, Cuauhtemoc Cardenas was cheated out of office by Carlos Salinas in 1988. His father was the populist president in the 1930s. I got to meet Cuauhtemoc's sister in 2008.

Mexico had about 12 years of "left-wing" rule. Maybe a few more. The rest was center-right.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:52 AM
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18. You mean a century of revolutions followed by a century of right-wing dictators?
A one-party monopoly of total, oligarchic corruption is not a century of left-wing rule :rofl:
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 11:17 AM
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19. I nearly spewed my coffee when I read that.
My students would fail my class if they assured me that Mexico's had a century of left-wing rule.
Six years for sure. I'm being generous with 12.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:23 PM
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22. The PRI was supposed to be leftie according to the all-knowing Wiki.........
But yeah, there was always a corruption problem that never really went away.

But what about social liberalism? Surely that at least, has made at least SOME inroads there, yes?
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 11:49 AM
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23. The PRI was an umbrella party.
Edited on Sun Oct-02-11 12:04 PM by a la izquierda
You can be a leftist or a conservative and be a member of the PRI. EDITED TO SAY: The PRI WAS. For a long time there was one party. Now there are more (PAN- Conservative, PRD- Left)
Social liberalism? Go to Mexico (if you haven't already). See how the poor are treated. Get back to me. It's abhorrent.
Employers can still discriminate against certain people (by saying they're looking for someone "de buena presentacion"- meaning not an indian). Racism is still rampant.

Don't get me wrong, I love Mexico. It's my second home. I'm more comfortable there than I am in many places in the US. But don't make it something it's not. It's not a liberal paradise. It's gotten better in some places. But I got called the devil in Guadalajara for being a tattooed woman- it's also extraordinarily conservative in many ways.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:45 AM
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11. "Mexicans are cleaner than the average American " WTH is this ridiculous statement supposed to mean?
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 06:46 AM by WinkyDink
You must never have driven the Mexican border, as I have, from Tijuana (the only clean restroom's being in the hospital) to Mexicali.

Good luck with those bags of severed heads. Nice, clean severed heads.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 09:04 AM
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14. I'll exclude border towns for my point. War zones are different.
I absolutely cannot believe my post was deleted.


Go to a beautiful town like Merida or any nearby town to see what I mean. Border towns are not representative if Mexico at all. Mexico is a beautiful country. Rich in culture and great people.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:41 PM
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5. Belize is better n/t
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:42 AM
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6. I've pretty much narrowed it down to...
Mérida or Lake Chapala. Mérida is nice, but the heat and humidity can be daunting. I haven't visited Lake Chapala yet, but I hear a lot of good things about it. Also, I'm 8 months into an intensive Spanish language course. I plan to move their prepared so I don't look and feel like a stupid Gringo who can't be bothered to learn the language.
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southmost Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 04:12 AM
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8. beautiful...
I'd love to retire to Mexico
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 04:28 AM
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9. Retired police, military, CIA? Join the Mata Zetas instead of playing golf!
:sarcasm:
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:50 AM
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13. I love the Yucatan.
My husband and I will probably buy a house down there....but we're not retiring for at least 30 years.
My studies are in Guadalajara and northern Mexico, but no way I'm moving up there. It's too dry.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 09:19 AM
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15. Chiles to die for.
Trolling the local markets for the Killah.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 11:33 AM
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20. Yep...I love the main market in Merida
I don't like those weird giant avocados, though. No flavor at all.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 11:59 AM
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21. The fun part is trying new foods and cooking techniques
I'm a Chemist by training who wanted to be a Chef. I could have a blast in a place like that. Going out early in the Morning, while it's still fairly comfortable, schmoozing with the vendors and getting fresh ingredients for a late Dinner in the cool of the Evening. Taking a long Siesta and getting mellow as the Sun sets.

I could get used to that if I had to......
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 09:22 AM
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16. I spent a few months in Panama on a TDY and all I can think of is the kids begging
in the streets. Lived in Laredo for years also.

I personlly would not feel right moving to a country known for its cheap living based on the way it treats its very poor people. I know we have poor people here, but they are not running to Mexico for a better way of life, it is the opposite.

We have a guy that does work for us, lived here for years and is from Guanajuato. He plans on moving back in a few years and opening a store with his dad. They have lots of "hueros" there that will keep him in business, so I guess that is good for him. Hueros means light-skinned. He says it is safe in the interior, but I'd rather not go check it out myself. Have fun.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:26 AM
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17. Merida is a little piece of heaven...Can't wait to go back
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