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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:17 AM
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Irony: Texas drought unveils proof that the world is older than 6,000 years.
When the weather is right, Lake Whitney State Park in Texas is a wonderful place for outdoor weekend athletes to get their fix. From boating, fishing, scuba diving and water skiing, the lake offers it all.

But with Texas locked in a record setting drought, the sinking water levels have turned the lake into something Indiana Jones would love. Texans have recently uncovered 8,000-year-old secrets, reports WFAA Dallas.



http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201109/texas-drough-exposes-history-dinosaur-age
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:25 AM
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1. 5,999-year-old secrets, you mean.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 12:25 AM by krispos42
:evilgrin:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:26 AM
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2. That article is absolutely bizarre...
Perhaps they should have a non-sportswriter do the reporting--preferably one who knows a bit of science? And, a good editor to catch those pesky date issues...:shrug:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:44 AM
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3. Committing crimes against history? That's a new one for me.
It's against Texas and federal regulations to remove Native American artifacts from archaeological sites. But WFAA reports burial sites from ancient times have been disturbed.

So far, law enforcement has arrested 30 people for committing the crimes against history. Each was fined thousands of dollars and placed on probation.
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:46 AM
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4. Trotting that old line of baloney out again, eh?
Like all who regurgitate this crap, all I have to say is, where did you start counting from to get that number?
I'll give ya a little clue, the period of time during the story of Creation when the sun and Earth didn't exist yet is INDETERMINATE as is the actual length of one of God's Days of Creation.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:42 AM
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5. There are a lot of people who would disagree with you because
they believe they can pinpoint the date of creation to 6000 years BC in the Book of Genesis. They even have creationist museums that show Adam and Eve hanging with the dinosaurs. Some are running for President in the Republican Party. The exact date of the universe is indeterminate if you are trying to find an exact date...but there's little argument, scientifically, that the universe is billions of years old.

Now you may not like this 'regurgitation', but it is total sarcasm directed at the morons who actually believe this stuff. And there's no evidence whatsoever that there was a "God" who created it. Unless, of course, you believe a collection of stories passed on by technically ignorant humans from a few thousand years in our past. The sooner all of the major monotheistic religions figure this out, the better this world will be. In fact, it just might become heaven on earth.
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:06 PM
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12. Ah well, takes just as much faith to think something like Existance just popped up out of nothing.
As for getting any group of human beings to agree on anything, en mass. for any length of time. Good luck.
At least I didn't feel it necessary to refer to people who believe differently than I by perjorative names.
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donquijoterocket Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 02:01 PM
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20. No it doesn't
Take "faith" which is the belief in the unprovable. It takes confidence in a mode of inquiry and discovery that's tried, tested, and proven over a wide range of scientific discoveries over a fairly considerable length of time.I can understand folks wishing to cast the discussion in their terms,but their wishes are just that and no more valid than Bishop Ussher's calculations.There's a considerable difference between unfounded, unsupported belief and confidence backed by years of proven reliability and results.
You didn't feel it necessary to cast any pejoratives,but you did feel it necessary to make a preemptive appeal to the victim status.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:50 AM
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6. The position you support is called "old earth creationism", the position the OP mocks is called...
"young earth creationism".
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:08 PM
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13. I see it as misunderstanding what The Bible says. The whole issue is a side point anyway compared
..to the Golden Rule and Christ's Teachings.
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 02:29 AM
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7. Really?
When I was dragged into Sunday School every weekend, the "teachers" told me that one day of creation was the same 24-hour period.
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Drahthaardogs Donating Member (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:48 AM
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9. That is because you went to a school that believes in sola scriptura.
Which is very much a Protestant belief, i.e. a literal translation and acceptance of scripture. Catholics, Anglicans, and Orthodox do not believe in a literal translation of the Bible, especially the Old Testament.
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:28 PM
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15. Then the teachers didn't read it closely, you're not supposed to add what isn't there.
Link given for reference.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&version=NIV
"And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, "

This was after the 3rd day of Creation. Which means no way to count time before that point according to the narration in Genesis. You can't have a "24-hour period" without a night and a day and a sun for Earth to revolve around or an earth to spin on it's own axis. Which also means nothing to base our current method of calculating days and years on.
Also, for the 1st 3 days of Creation there was no sun/earth to even define a 24 hour day or 365 day year by.
You can say that it was a "24-hour" period, however if you're not going to bear false witness, you have to state that is assumed.
The actual time can't be determined by the account in Genesis and was never given.
You can see why whenever the old "6000 years" saw is dragged out, I just have to ask,"where did you start counting from?".
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:54 AM
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10. Your post is, frankly, weird.
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:35 PM
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16. What is weird when someone gives a specific counting to ask them where they started counting from?
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donquijoterocket Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 02:04 PM
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21. What's INDETERMINATE
Is the actual existence of the Big Invisible Sky Boohoo.
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HowHeThinks Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 05:32 AM
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8. Everyone knows.........
that Satan put those fossils there to test the faith of God's true believers. Right? :eyes:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:59 AM
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11. God put it there to test yr faith. n/t
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:12 PM
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14. And if you say "Hey, why would God trick me?" you get zapped.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 01:30 PM by Fire Walk With Me
They might want to consider upgrading to Diety 2.0...
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:37 PM
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17. Let me know when you get tested like Abraham.
Thought I doubt you'll be the founder of anything, anytime soon.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:49 PM
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18. Uh-oh, sorry if I touched a nerve. I'm not Bible-based but I seek what I would call
God the holy creator of all there is. My hope is that God is large enough to not need to trick or tease His creations, but instead is endlessly loving and giving, even when we ask for things that are not good for us. And more like that. Peace and love to you. That's all.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:55 PM
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19. The original story makes no such claim
Whoever this person is that re-worked the original and regurgitated it on that site should be ashamed:

From WFAA:

LAKE WHITNEY - Sinking lake levels have exposed some of Hill County's hidden secrets.

Fossils and Native American tools from eight thousand years ago are easy to find at Lake Whitney, and looters are taking advantage...

~snip~

...Even in remote parts of Lake Whitney that were once buried under concrete for security, scavengers unearth and discard valuable history.

There are fossils and Native American tools from prehistoric times...


link to the WFAA story: http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Drought-Uncovers-Treasure-for-Looters-130823318.html
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