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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 05:55 AM
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Bush suffers court setbacks in war on terrorism
Ah, the good old days, when even the President had to obey the law...
The Reuters news article can still be found at http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/06/17/us-bush-security-court-idUSN1527963120070617
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2883817

rodeodance (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-17-07 11:19 AM
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Bush suffers court setbacks in war on terrorism
By James Vicini 2 hours, 35 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush's broad assertions of power in his war on terrorism are under assault by U.S. judges who have rejected his indefinite imprisonment of enemy combatants and the domestic spying program.

A pair of recent rulings, one from military judges and the other from a U.S. appeals court, delivered new legal setbacks for Bush's tactics in dealing with terrorism suspects held at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, or in the United States.

"In case after case, this nation's judicial branch has told the administration that it may not trample on fundamental rights in the name of national security," said Hina Shamsi of the New York-based group Human Rights First.

A federal appeals court panel in Virginia ruled 2-1 on Monday that Bush could not declare civilians in this country to be enemy combatants and have the military hold them indefinitely.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070617/pl_nm/bush_security_court_dc;_ylt=AuyYf7N9_l640CYqmCjS2K6s0NUE



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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:07 AM
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1. Yeah, DU was a different place back then...
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 06:09 AM by ixion
it's come full circle since those days. :( Turns out the only reason many people here were against unconstitutional acts was because their 'team' wasn't in the WH.

Now it's both a (D) and an (R) endless war.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:33 AM
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2. i noticed that too....
whether it`s a democrat or a republican the big lie is still the big lie
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:03 AM
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4. pretty much
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:39 AM
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5. A lot more
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 10:50 AM by chill_wind
neolib acceptance of Bush Doctrine permawar and disinterest in the meaning and impact of the US's ever expanding police state authoritarianism has crept on the left, in the space of a pretty short time, it seems. Mockery, strawman hyperbole distractions and ridicule of the type you once only ever saw deployed on RW Bush sycophant sites has increasingly become the staple tactic of quashing all manner of question, criticism or dissent. Policy objections, fears and deeply held convictions throughout the Bush admin about civil liberties, state secrecy, war, torture, a corrupt justice system and so much more are never "real" now; the people still voicing them are just Haters.

We're certainly finding out more about who we're becoming. It's scarey.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:43 PM
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7. Yep. Sad.
PB
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:54 PM
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9. +1
For many it appears cheerleading a team is the true position and nature of the moral ideology. It crosses all spectrums of folks that routinely follow politics. It isn't about moral standing or principles, it's about rah rah. Being hip and cliche isn't my cup of tea, because principles are everything to me.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 06:49 AM
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 11:28 AM
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6. Roll the Tape.

Restore America’s Honor






"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for,
at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."

--- Paul Wellstone


photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed


Solidarity!

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:45 PM
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8. great quote. I miss Paul Wellstone.
Thanks for posting. :applause:
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 12:54 PM
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10. GREAT quote!
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 04:36 PM
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11. Great video - hadn't seen it - thanks. nt
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