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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 10:51 AM Original message |
You are president and the CIA hands you a PDB entitled: Awlaki Determined To Strike in US |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. Illustrates why it is not so easy as people are making it out to be |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Obama didn't have to get involved |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Imagine if Awlaki managed an attack |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. +2001 |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. We lost a helicopter going after Bin Laden. We were fortunate there were no casualties. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. What about this option? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Actually, I believe there has been some court review. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Which means the court did not look at any evidince at all. |
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theaocp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. +1 |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Yes, I believe that's the case. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. If they had no standing, Awaki could have done it himself |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. The father had no standing |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. If we need all of that, we could not get any terrorist |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
45. We'd need to modify our legal system to allow a trial in absentia more easily. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. Imminent threat is the measure, IMHO. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. Except the nature of terrorism is generally that you can't see it coming. |
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Recovered Repug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
4. If you only give me difficult choices, |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
6. "Nice piece of fiction based on a true story you have there." |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
7. EDIT: Accidental double post. Delete, please. nt |
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rustydog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
8. didn't happen. Our best response; rush in, capture him, |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. "A key part of the prosecution case was a series of heavily encrypted messages between al-Awlaki..." |
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rustydog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Forgive me, HE IS GUILTY by allegation, kill him. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. I wonder would that be enough evidence |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. What happens when the commando raid fails? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. If he were on US soil, obviously that would be the action |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
9. Oh, I would call in my hippy-punching staff and they have lawyer friends. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
11. when Bush got that memo, it was already our policy to kill bin laden |
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YellowCosmicSun (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
12. Of course you let him slaughter people until you can detain him for a trial, right? |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Do you have even a scintilla of evidence that al-Alawki EVER raised his hand against America |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You are assuming there is NO evidence? |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Prove It. (n/t) |
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YellowCosmicSun (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Why are you on his side, Vinnie? He wasn't on yours. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I am not on his side at all, I am on the side of the rule of law |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. If you feel the POTUS has to prove it to YOU first |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
14. So killing the top operative in this plot is the best scenario? Really? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
16. You left out the only option that would matter to the targets of this supposed attack. |
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5X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. +1000 n/t |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
27. You are President and handed a memo: Gay Martians to attack |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
29. This is a wonderful example of the "Limited Options Logical Fallacy". |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
30. We condemned Bush for not following up on his PDB |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That's not good enough |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. So by your logic a leader should not act on anything |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You know very well that isn't my logic |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
32. I'd certainly question the accuracy of anything the CIA handed me. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Lol. You win the DU. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
34. Well, we will see that PDB if your supposition is correct. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
41. I send a letter to congress and the supreme court that opens discussion of how we can reconcile... |
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watercolors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
44. Go get the Bastard, nuff said!! |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
46. Looks like you might have lost this one. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
49. Oh, and if this was a sound decision for keeping the people secure, what does THIS mean? |
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