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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:01 PM
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Justice memo authorized killing of Al-Awlaki
By David Morgan

~snip~

The Washington Post reports that a secret Justice Department memo sanctioned the killing of Awlaki, a U.S. citizen who became an al Qaeda propagandist and operational leader.

The document followed a review by senior administration lawyers of the legal issues raised by the lethal targeting of a U.S. citizen. Administration officials told the Post that there was no dissent about the legality of the killing.

The administration has faced criticism - and a legal challenge - over its targeting of Awlaki, who was born in New Mexico to Yemeni parents. The memorandum may represent an attempt to resolve a legal debate over whether a U.S. president can order the killing of American citizens.

With regard to the killing as a counter-terrorism measure, the memo deems, in the words of one officials, "due process in war."

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/01/earlyshow/saturday/main20114273.shtml

A complex issue.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:02 PM
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1. "due process in war." BULLSHIT
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:07 PM
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4. I thought OBL declared war on western civilization.
:shrug:

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:12 PM
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5. When exactly did the USA declare war on the world?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:16 PM
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7. When ObL and company declared war on the western world. Unfortunately, "W" and
company ignored the PDB on 8/6/2001, which led to this mess.

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:24 PM
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10. I do not believe that the constitution was discarded when aWoL seized power.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 07:24 PM by Vincardog
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:06 PM
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2. Quite correct.
Good job Mr. President and team. Obama has turned out to be a terrorist killing machine. So much for that "lack of desire" to confront the enemy.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:19 PM
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8. This wasn't the reason I voted for Obama.
And I would not have had I known.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:29 PM
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11. Any President would have killed the terrorist.
It's not the reason I voted for him either but I would not have voted for anyone who would not be prepared to kill enemies of the state.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:33 PM
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13. I think you'd have to define that last term.
Nobody gets to be judge, jury and executioner in a civilized country.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:05 PM
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17. Ok.
If you declare yourself at war with the United States, organize, participate in or actively recruit people to commit acts of war against the United States you are an enemy of the state. It's pretty simple really. Don't join up with al Qaeda or their like and no one will be dropping bombs on you.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:44 PM
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21. But how is that proven?
I'm serious. Not picking a fight. I just think we are making gross assumptions and blurring the lines because we detest this guy.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 12:16 AM
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23. Quite easily...
ObL told the world the he and AQ were fighting a war against the Western world.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:06 PM
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3. Well, I guess it was OK then. NOT!
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:14 PM
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6. Yeah. Time to celebrate.
:puke:
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Fool Count Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:23 PM
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9. What legal challenge? It is legally airtight.
The only person with legal standing to challenge such action is dead. It is beautiful.
As Stalin said - "No person, no problem".
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:31 PM
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12. Even Stalin went through the motions with show trials. n/t
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:34 PM
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14. Bloodlust
is not just for Republicans, I guess. Enjoy this death if that's what makes you happy.
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Fool Count Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 09:07 PM
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19. I doesn't make me happy at all. In fact, I think it is a bloody crime.
That's why I compared it to what Stalin did.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:35 PM
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15. And there's the answer in black and white.
I hope that answers that question!!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:38 PM
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16. Ahem, there were also Justice Dept. memos advocating the use of torture. Ooops. nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:07 PM
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18. John Yoo wrote memos, too.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 09:12 PM
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20. Indeed
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 09:13 PM by Cali_Democrat
John Yoo was probably turned on by the extra judicial killing of Awlaki.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:56 PM
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22. +1,000. nt
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