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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:04 PM
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“Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience..........

......... Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders…and millions have been killed because of this obedience…Our problem is that people are obedient allover the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves… (and) the grand thieves are running the country. That’s our problem.”

-- Howard Zinn



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Los Angeles


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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:55 PM
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1. Howard Zinn. Long a voice of reason. His words live on.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:04 PM
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2. kick
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 11:58 PM
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3. K&R
Dwell on that one. Not as easy to digest as i thought it would be.

It's hard to wake up to see the betrayal. To know I've been duped.
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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 01:42 AM
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4. "Genesis is exactly backward. Our troubles started from obedience, not disobedience...
...And humanity is not yet created." - from The Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson

"Disobedience was man's Original Virtue." - Oscar Wilde
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 03:27 AM
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5. Yes. Definitely.
and have you noticed how people have been conditioned to call their subservience obedience 'good manners'? or 'decorum'?

How convenient for those who would oppress you for you to view it as only polite to just take it.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 03:47 AM
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6. Do I see three-room tents there in Boston?
Wow! That's impressive!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 12:11 PM
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7. Kick. (nt)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 12:16 PM
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8. I wish he could have seen this.
:)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 12:26 PM
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10. Really.
In a way, he's helped it along.

I hear stories that some of them krazy kids today like to read books

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 12:59 PM
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11. You know who else? Michael Moore.
Edited on Sun Oct-02-11 01:00 PM by EFerrari
Not only in his support but I swear, when he went to Wall Street with a bullhorn, it was over for Goldman Sachs. He showed you could act up on Wall Street and that it was in fact the right thing to do.

He's doing great on BookTv this morning. He's gotten a lot better at talking to interviewers. :)


/oops
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 01:07 PM
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12. I loved his mom on the Dick Van Dyke Show. But seriously,
she was great on her other show, too.

:evilgrin:

A fine assessment, per usual.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 12:24 PM
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9. Great quote!
:thumbsup: and Rec'd!
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