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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:22 AM
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Uh. Problem here with OWS
Edited on Tue Oct-04-11 08:22 AM by ProfessionalLeftist
Look - it doesn't help to protest the 1% if you're ACTING like them. This is something a goddamned Republican / Tea Party corprat would do. WHY are the 99% doing it?

What happened? What am I grousing about?

Some ass took a Google pic of the protest area and PHOTOSHOPPED a bunch more people in it than there actually were (the damn photo was taken from Googlemaps in June 2011 - before the Wall St. Protests even began!)

I can tell you this photo is circulating all around Facebook. And it's been DEBUNKED here.

http://blog.timparkinson.net/2011/09/30/lies-damn-lies-and-photoshop/

Is THIS helpful to the 99% cause? I think NOT.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:24 AM
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1. It is fall .... the trees wouldn't all be green
n/t
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:25 AM
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2. Well stop that someone right now and of course stop the movement,
Edited on Tue Oct-04-11 08:27 AM by kickysnana
:sarcasm:

Not helpful. As my elders used to say go find something useful to do.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:47 AM
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10. I didn't suggest the movement ought to be stopped
Nowhere in my OP did I write or in any way suggest it. I just stated that this was a really dumb thing to do. That is all.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:27 AM
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3. So, they obviously grabbed some archived image...
Obvious, since it appears to be a peak spring-summer shot, given the green fullness of the trees and vegetation. Sloppy? Yes... Intentional? Doubtful.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:32 AM
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5. Stupid? No shit.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:30 AM
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4. Take it up with this character:
http://www.jasonwettstein.com/

He's the one who - for whatever reason - promulgated the phony-baloney image. Are you so willing to toss out the baby with the bathwater that you're going to chide the entire OWS movement over the actions of a graphic designer who may or may not have any connection to OWS? Sure, mistakes were made on the part of some who forwarded this photo without verification, but it's not grounds for blanket condemnation.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:45 AM
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8. Tell me WHERE in the OP that I suggested the movement ought to be stopped
because of this.

PLEASE point it out to me.

Otherwise, do not insinuate, or otherwise infer that I wrote or suggested something I did not.

I merely stated that this action on the part of the person who did this was extremely stupid. That is all.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:04 AM
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11. Point out to ME where I suggested that YOU suggested that the movement ought to be stopped
I'm saying that the criticism should be reserved for the person who foisted this fraudulent photo - not the movement as a whole. If I misinterpreted your words, I apologize.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:43 PM
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14. YOUR quote:
Edited on Tue Oct-04-11 04:44 PM by ProfessionalLeftist
"Are you so willing to toss out the baby with the bathwater that you're going to chide the entire OWS movement over the actions of a graphic designer who may or may not have any connection to OWS?"

Now...WHERE did I write or suggest "tossing out the baby with the bathwater"?

SHOW me. Hmm?
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:46 PM
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16. The title of your OP sounds rather aggressive and all-encompassing
Edited on Tue Oct-04-11 04:47 PM by Capitalocracy
Problem with the OWS... sounds like you have a problem with the OWS as a movement, not one individual asshat who decided to use unethical propaganda techniques and make us all look bad.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:52 PM
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18. You might want to search for my prior posts here...
...you will see that I am supportive of OWS and other progressive/Dem causes else I'd not be here.

I am not supportive of idiots set out to destroy the only chance 99% of us have for social/economic/political justice - whether they be interlopers or just plain dumb.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 06:54 PM
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19. I know which side you're on, I'm just explaining the confusion
I know you didn't intend it that way but that's how the title comes off, I think.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:37 AM
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6. This came out a couple of weeks ago
How do you know it was our side that photoshopped it?

You don't.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:40 AM
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7. +1 n/t
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 08:46 AM
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9. I don't. However if it was, people might want to THINK
before acting like that which they are allegedly fighting against.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:56 AM
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13. And that's my point.
"If" is not a reason to paint with a broad brush.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:06 AM
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12. +1 nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:45 PM
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15. Facebook is NOT the movement
social media promote it. period
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:47 PM
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17. Keep debunking it. The truth is important. If some are using subterfuge
call them out immediately and strongly. Shout it down. Lose the little Limbaughs. The power is ours. Scream it like you mean it!
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:31 PM
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20. Are we ASSUMING this guy isn't an agent provocateur, or is there evidence either way?
His website makes him look like an asshat of the first order.

"As you can see I am one of the best designers out there but dont be scared my rates are very competative."

"I am very good at everything listed bellow and all things in between."

"I sell my working files PSD's excreta." I THINK he meant 'et cetera', but perhaps he's correct.

I can't tell more about his site because I'm not willing to trust its scripts, and he has one of those websites that whines about your not having Javascript, and refuses to do anything without it.
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